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Old 09-28-2016, 08:48 AM
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Re: Law was an impossible system to keep

Use of the phrase OUR FATHERS was never used to distinguish followers of Pharisaism from others.
Act 15:10....Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Esaias, you are implying that OUR FATHERS refers to people who followed Pharisaism. Again, Peter made no distinction between actual Law of Moses and the Pharisees' twisted version. That interpolation of a thought is always used by folks who keep Jewish feasts. And it really has to be exposed. Love you bro., but you're dead wrong on this one.

If you are correct that Peter addressed a distorted version of the law, then his reference to WE AND OUR FATHERS only refers to Pharisees and not all Hebrew ancestors under Mosaic law, before the time of the pharisees. That means, OUR FATHERS must be noted to refer to pharisees alone, so let's see what the use of OUR FATHERS involves in the New Testament to see it bears that thought out.
Mat_23:30....And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Luk_1:55....As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.

Luk_1:72....To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;

Joh_6:31....Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.

Act_3:13....The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Act_3:25....Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Act_5:30....The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

Act_7:11....Now there came a dearth over all the land of Egypt and Chanaan, and great affliction: and our fathers found no sustenance.

Act_7:12....But when Jacob heard that there was corn in Egypt, he sent out our fathers first.

Act_7:15....So Jacob went down into Egypt, and died, he, and our fathers,

Act_7:19....The same dealt subtilly with our kindred, and evil entreated our fathers, so that they cast out their young children, to the end they might not live.

Act_7:38....This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

Act_7:39....To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

Act_7:44....Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.

Act_7:45....Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David;

Act_13:17....The God of this people of Israel chose our fathers, and exalted the people when they dwelt as strangers in the land of Egypt, and with an high arm brought he them out of it.

Act_15:10....Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Act_22:14....And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

Act_26:6....And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers:

Act_28:17....And it came to pass, that after three days Paul called the chief of the Jews together: and when they were come together, he said unto them, Men and brethren, though I have committed nothing against the people, or customs of our fathers, yet was I delivered prisoner from Jerusalem into the hands of the Romans.

Act_28:25....And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

1Co_10:1....Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
Noe ONE CASE, except the one you claim refers to Pharisees, uses OUR FATHERS in reference to anybody aside from the OVERALL ISRAELITE PEOPLE. Not one.

So, when Peter said OUR FATHERS were under a burden none could bear, He meant being under the LAW OF MOSES before any pharisee came along.
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