i dunno, i think it is naive to imagine that there was no Phariseeism in their father's time, regardless of what it was called. People are people. Funny to me that you are talking about martyrs for Christ, who could not stand...the Decalogue?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I agree with what John Gill said:
and his commandments are not grievous; heavy, burdensome, and disagreeable; by which are meant, not so much the precepts of the moral law, which through the weakness of the flesh are hard to be kept, and cannot be perfectly fulfilled; though believers indeed, being freed from the rigorous exaction, curse, and condemnation of the law, delight in it after the inward man, and serve it cheerfully with their spirit; and still less the commands of the ceremonial law, which were now abolished, and were grievous to be borne; but rather those of faith in Christ, and love to the saints, 1Jo_3:23; or it may be the ordinances of the Gospel, baptism, and the Lord's supper, with others, which though disagreeable to unregenerate persons, who do not care to be under the yoke of Christ, however easy and light it is, yet are not heavy and burdensome to regenerate ones; and especially when they have the love of God shed abroad in them, the presence of God with them, communion with Jesus Christ, and a supply of grace and strength from him; then are these ways ways of pleasantness, and paths of peace, and the tabernacles of the Lord are amiable and lovely. Have you never heard of this view? |
Ezekiel's
pillows come to mind. At least reflect upon the contrast created by Gill here to the lives of those you say you wish to be like; if there is one, and i am not imagining things.
I just said rules are great unless they are used to earn righteousness, and righteousness comes by grace through, so neither can be earned.
Rules are not always steps to earning wages. It is a rule to say we cannot use fleshly life to live a spiritual life. That has nothing to do with earning.
i'm not sure, i may be just misunderstanding you here, plus there is the dichotomy of
the wages of sin is death but "you cannot earn salvation" to deal with, so prolly all we would continue to do there is illuminate different sides of the truth, but it's funny that in clarifying
The only rules to follow grace are the manners to be born again and learn to walk after the Spirit. There is a Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus, which is how to follow the Spirit and let it guide us.
Rules are great unless they're steps of how to earn righteousness.
you also brought up this Gill thing--which i'm certainly not saying is "wrong," mind you--because there at Gill, and in the bolded above, i detect maybe a compromise has been made, so i guess i would ask what the bolded means to Unregistered.
18For I consider that the sufferings of this present time... what are these sufferings, to...pretty much anyone who can read this? Who does
"Can affliction or anguish or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword?" resonate with, here? How? Don't get me wrong, Gill might have something cogent to say here too, dunno, might be interesting to hear it, but what i'm getting at is that
As it is written:
Because of You
we are being put to death all day long;
we are counted as sheep to be slaughtered.
sounds closer to...well, Aquila, than Gill. Closer to a characterization of some...thing, or one, else, other than us, at least right now. Prolly two different subjects, but they are kind of mixing together, it seems to me, so this should be addressed imo.
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