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Old 12-25-2016, 12:30 PM
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Re: Which bible/bibles gets 1 Timothy 3:16 correct

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So which of these bibles get it right? The ones that say he or God?

Hi !The two "oldest" texts says :
1)WHO (not he!) was manifested in flesh.
2)WHICH WAS MANIFESTED IN FLESH
this originaly word by word translated (i am greek)
and the Majority Text says:
3)GOD MANIFESTED IN FLESH
in greek text many times writes shrter words for example jesus is writen originali :ΙΗΣΟΥΣ but in the text it is writen :ΙΣ
this means for the word :
HE=ΑΥΤΟΣ and we must then have ΑΣ but we dont have text like this
WHO=ΟΥΤΟΣ and we correct have ΟΣ ,but this is gramatical wrong .
WICH=ΟΥΤΟ and is grammaticaly correct ..if he is speaking anout the mistery wich manifested.
GOD=ΘΕΟΣ and we have ΘΣ thats why some texts has ΟΣ without the - int middle of O.
also there are references from 1-2-3 century apostolic fathers.
*sorry for my english!
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Old 12-25-2016, 12:34 PM
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Re: Which bible/bibles gets 1 Timothy 3:16 correct

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Hi !The two "oldest" texts says :
This implies use of a logical fallacy. The promotion of the "two oldest" implies they're the most accurate, since they're closer to the date the texts were first written. Just because something is older does not mean it's more accurate. Consider denominations and ask yourself if Catholicism is most accurate because its oldest.

These two oldest are the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus. The Vaticanus was found on a shelf in the Vatican after Catholics plundered the world, and it's not known where the codex was even found. The Sinaiticus was found in a monastery on Mt Sinai used for starting fires!
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Old 12-26-2016, 12:24 AM
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Re: Which bible/bibles gets 1 Timothy 3:16 correct

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This implies use of a logical fallacy. The promotion of the "two oldest" implies they're the most accurate, since they're closer to the date the texts were first written. Just because something is older does not mean it's more accurate. Consider denominations and ask yourself if Catholicism is most accurate because its oldest.

These two oldest are the Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus. The Vaticanus was found on a shelf in the Vatican after Catholics plundered the world, and it's not known where the codex was even found. The Sinaiticus was found in a monastery on Mt Sinai used for starting fires!
I am 100% with you man! (read the entire post) i also prefair the Majority text ! i think this is the original.
Vaticanus and Sinaiticus also disagree and contradicte one the other in many many places but today translators says "the older the better"
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