Christian Life Center Stockton CA

[Esaias]

Oh the wheel in the sky keeps on turnin'

Don't know where she'll be tomorrow...

[2theX]

Originally Posted by CC1

Can you explain what you mean by Allen Jackson being a "shapeshifter"?

As far as I know there is only one UPC church in town and it only has one weekend service and runs around 300 or 350 (pretty much filling their sanctuary). They are in the midst of a building program with plans to build a larger sanctuary on their property in 2018.

There is a

right out side of our town a few miles just a couple of miles from my house that, based on the number of cars I see outside during service time, probably runs around 100-150.

I think the first quarter of 2017 our church averaged around 2,900 each weekend over four services (sanctuary seats 1,300) and we had a little over 3,900 on Easter Sunday with a 5th added service (7 am Sunday). By the definition of AFF our church would not be Apostolic as we do not demonize or "deny" the trinity. We do baptize in Jesus name only and have been averaging around 300+ baptisms per year the last few years. We also believe in the gifts of the Spirit, etc.

Hey CCI,
What is a, or why is it a "serpent seed" Oneness Pentecostal church?
Just curious....

[CC1]

Originally Posted by 2theX

Hey CCI,
What is a, or why is it a "serpent seed" Oneness Pentecostal church?
Just curious....

Hopefully Elder Steve Epley will see this and respond since he is very familiar with the doctrine and can explain it much better than I can since I don't know or understand that much about it.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by CC1

Hopefully Elder Steve Epley will see this and respond since he is very familiar with the doctrine and can explain it much better than I can since I don't know or understand that much about it.

These folks are followers of William Branham. The serpent seed doctrine in a nut shell is this(heavy on the nut) Eve was impregnated by the serpent who was the missing link birthed Cain his linage was an ungodly line that somehow managed to survive the flood these are predestined to hell.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

These folks are followers of William Branham. The serpent seed doctrine in a nut shell is this(heavy on the nut) Eve was impregnated by the serpent who was the missing link birthed Cain his linage was an ungodly line that somehow managed to survive the flood these are predestined to hell.

[Evang.Benincasa]

In the Zohar in chapter XXXI, Rabbi Eleazar states:

The probable cause of their great dissimilarity of nature arose from coitions [aka coitus as in sexual intercourse] of the being termed the serpent, and Adam with Eve who thus brought forth two sons, one of which, Cain, was from an impure, the other, Abel, from a pure progenitor; hence the difference in their lives and actions. As Cain was the issue from the death angel, he killed his brother who issued from the right side of the tree of life. And through him has come all the evil generations of demons and elementals now in the world.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/zdm040.htm

Serpent seed doctrine has its origins in the Talmudic book of the Zohar.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In the Zohar in chapter XXXI, Rabbi Eleazar states:

The probable cause of their great dissimilarity of nature arose from coitions [aka coitus as in sexual intercourse] of the being termed the serpent, and Adam with Eve who thus brought forth two sons, one of which, Cain, was from an impure, the other, Abel, from a pure progenitor; hence the difference in their lives and actions. As Cain was the issue from the death angel, he killed his brother who issued from the right side of the tree of life. And through him has come all the evil generations of demons and elementals now in the world.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/zdm040.htm

Serpent seed doctrine has its origins in the Talmudic book of the Zohar.

You beat me to it.

I find it funny when "Two Seedline" Christian Identity folks start on about the serpent seed, Cain, Kenites, Canaanites, Edomites, and "evil reptilian Talmudic Jews" and don't even realize they are following Talmudic and Kabbalistic teaching.

The irony escapes them, however.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

In the Zohar in chapter XXXI, Rabbi Eleazar states:

The probable cause of their great dissimilarity of nature arose from coitions [aka coitus as in sexual intercourse] of the being termed the serpent, and Adam with Eve who thus brought forth two sons, one of which, Cain, was from an impure, the other, Abel, from a pure progenitor; hence the difference in their lives and actions. As Cain was the issue from the death angel, he killed his brother who issued from the right side of the tree of life. And through him has come all the evil generations of demons and elementals now in the world.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/zdm/zdm040.htm

Serpent seed doctrine has its origins in the Talmudic book of the Zohar.

this is why I like AFF, as long as you avoid the shark tanks, there is a lot you can learn here.

[CC1]

I thought I should interject a disclaimer for anybody seeing the title of this thread then reading only some of the later pages.

The discussion evolved into many things, including serpent seed doctrine, that have nothing to do with the original thread - which was about how empty the sanctuary appears to be on the Sunday service webcasts of Christian Life Center Stockton, California.

CLC in no way shape or form has anything to do with serpent seed doctrine nor many of the things discussed on this thread!

[n david]

Originally Posted by CC1

CLC in no way shape or form has anything to do with serpent seed doctrine nor many of the things discussed on this thread!