Submission? Or Power and Control?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

I wrote the piece so you are welcome to ask me what I meant.

It is bad because we should not be seeking power and control in this sense. We should trust God, not our own ability to keep rules so we can control outcomes.

I understand that we never do this through human discipline minus God.

But train up a child in the way they should go still a basic of teaching to obey scripture. You have the choice whether to obey, or disobey. Legalism, is saying and doing not. Not, a haircut and a bow tie. ILG, do you believe that you can live an overcoming life without transgressions? Or do you believe that you are saved in sin and stay in sin?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

ILG, do you believe that you can live an overcoming life without transgressions? Or do you believe that you are saved in sin and stay in sin?

I believe that God gives us the power to overcome sin. That doesn't mean we are perfect. For example, that second donut might be gluttony but I think God leaves a little room for human weakness.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

I believe that God gives us the power to overcome sin. That doesn't mean we are perfect. For example, that second donut might be gluttony but I think God leaves a little room for human weakness.

What is the Bible definition of perfect?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

What is the Bible definition of perfect?

It means your sins are covered by the blood of the perfect one. It doesn't mean you leave your hair uncut as a woman or keep from eating too many donuts.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by ILG

It means your sins are covered by the blood of the perfect one. It doesn't mean you leave your hair uncut as a woman or keep from eating too many donuts.

OK, you don't know. The Bible definition of perfect is a Greek word which means "end." Or complete and final, which denotes growth from an infant to a matured elder.

Matthew 5:48 Jesus is telling His followers after a list of guidelines that they are to be perfect just like the Father. Meaning that through their conversion they would be born again as babes in Christ, and grow through the sincere mother's milk of the word. They would develop into mature elders who were now able to eat strong food. Hebrews 5:12 shows us that some Diaspora Judeans who had converted to the Apostolic faith weren't maturing. They are told that they should be at the place of teaching, but they need to be taught. Which meant they were to be nursed again, because they were inexperienced, and not acquainted with the teaching of "righteousness."

Philippians 3:12 is Paul saying what? Paul is talking about obtaining maturity. He is simply following Jesus' teaching of trees, which a good tree cannot produce bad fruit, or a bad tree produce good fruit. 1 Corinthians 3:1 Has Paul addressing Diaspora Judeans and Greeks informing them that he can't deal with them on a spiritual level. Because they were still immature. If a person can't run with footmen, how can they contend with heavy cavalry?

Philippians 3:14-13 Paul is directing the Roman Apostolics that they much press on to maturity in Christ Jesus. Just like 1 Corinthians 11:1 where the apostle tells his church family that they should follow his example as he follows Christ's example. All about coming to a place of maturity where you can now produce good spiritual fruit. The owner of the Garden comes to inspects trees, finds one that produces no fruit, yet, wants to cut it down. The gardener asks the Garden owner to hold off while the gardener treats the tree. Yet, what people fail to take into consideration is that if the tree still doesn't produce fruit, it was promised that it then would be rooted up and burned.

So, please clarify about your correlation concerning hair uncut as a woman or keep from eating too many donuts?

I don't follow where you are going with this?