Submission? Or Power and Control?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by houston

I remember sitting in services where LS was the speaker. He told these stories about special powers women had because they didn't cut their hair. Strange, nothing stood out until years later after I joined a forum. LOL.

Maybe the average church goer isn't going to process this stuff. In one ear, out the other.

Especially if you're a man.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Dont mess with me dude...Ill have my wife shake her hair at you lol....maybe I can get her to shake her hair over my wallet.....

We need a "shake your hair" emoticon!

[houston]

Originally Posted by ILG

Especially if you're a man.

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by houston

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

What I mean is that if you are a man, you are probably less likely to notice women's teachings on hair. Sheesh, what did you think I meant?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by ILG

The people who have been harmed by this teaching are all over. If you listen.

I've only ever heard from you and a couple other "victims of Pentecost" here, nFCF, and FCF. Occasionally I read a comment on some local forum or blog where someone complains about Pentecostals not being allowed to cut their hair. It was "bondage" according to them because they wanted to wear short hair, makeup, jewelry, pants, shorts, tank tops, watch TV, go to the beach, go clubbing, smoke, drink, and generally live like the world.

In "real life" the only people I've met who think "pentecostal standards are bondage" are either ex-Christians who hate everything Christian with a passion, baptists and Lutherans and Methodists who like their short hair, makeup, jewelry, etc, or uber-liberal types who think Jesus smiles on their dope-smoking fornicating party all week church on Easter Sunday way of living.

Obviously, ymmv.

[n david]

Originally Posted by ILG

If a man tries to control a woman by preaching she will go to hell if he doesn't interpret the bible the way he says she should, he could well be sinning against her if he is twisting her head. It's called abuse and it's what the Pharisees did and Jesus preached against that a lot.

Basically, this is woman's liberation for the church. Don't tell her what she should/shouldn't do with her body. Especially if you're a male preacher. Regardless of what the Bible says.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I've only ever heard from you and a couple other "victims of Pentecost" here, nFCF, and FCF. Occasionally I read a comment on some local forum or blog where someone complains about Pentecostals not being allowed to cut their hair. It was "bondage" according to them because they wanted to wear short hair, makeup, jewelry, pants, shorts, tank tops, watch TV, go to the beach, go clubbing, smoke, drink, and generally live like the world.

In "real life" the only people I've met who think "pentecostal standards are bondage" are either ex-Christians who hate everything Christian with a passion, baptists and Lutherans and Methodists who like their short hair, makeup, jewelry, etc, or uber-liberal types who think Jesus smiles on their dope-smoking fornicating party all week church on Easter Sunday way of living.

Obviously, ymmv.

Amen, there is a root of bitterness that gets in a persons spirit to keep the Spirit of God from working in their life and in the lives those who listen to them.

Hebrews 12:14..Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15..Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16..Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
17..For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Esaias

I've only ever heard from you and a couple other "victims of Pentecost" here, nFCF, and FCF. Occasionally I read a comment on some local forum or blog where someone complains about Pentecostals not being allowed to cut their hair. It was "bondage" according to them because they wanted to wear short hair, makeup, jewelry, pants, shorts, tank tops, watch TV, go to the beach, go clubbing, smoke, drink, and generally live like the world.

In "real life" the only people I've met who think "pentecostal standards are bondage" are either ex-Christians who hate everything Christian with a passion, baptists and Lutherans and Methodists who like their short hair, makeup, jewelry, etc, or uber-liberal types who think Jesus smiles on their dope-smoking fornicating party all week church on Easter Sunday way of living.

Obviously, ymmv.

And me

[houston]

Originally Posted by n david

Basically, this is woman's liberation for the church. Don't tell her what she should/shouldn't do with her body. Especially if you're a male preacher. Regardless of what the Bible says.

Nailed it! Goes back to the garden...

[houston]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Amen, there is a root of bitterness that gets in a persons spirit to keep the Spirit of God from working in their life and in the lives those who listen to them.

That's really not fair. People come wounded and need to get this stuff off their chest. Time and time again I've seen them labeled as bitter. That cookie cutter answer doesn't fly. No, forums are not the best place to turn. But where can they go? Their churches disown them. Family turn their backs on them.