Submission? Or Power and Control? - Page 29

Esaias · #**281** 08-13-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

The organization doesn't preach against it because they don't want to dismantle their own stance even if it is false doctrine. It should be easy to teach against this. Instead, they leave it up to us "backslid heathen" to do it.

Organizations don't preach. Men do. And most men don't preach against HMH because its such an outlier, its like expecting an organizational decree regarding flat earth.

Again, I've been around apostolics from one coast to the other and in between, and never even heard of this stuff until these forums. Never even heard of it back in the days of Delphi forums, either.

Evang.Benincasa · #**282** 08-13-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Your husband never gave you a scriptural answer? Seems like you could have shortened 16 years down to about an evening or two.

My wife and daughters have long hair. When people comment to them about hair its always "Oh, you have such gorgeous hair! It's so long!" with an occasional "Wish my hair was that long" thrown in. They do get asked "So, why do you wear a head covering again? Are you Pentecostal? Mennonite? Amish?" Which immediately results in an impromptu Bible study on hair, headcoverings, prayer, the Holy Ghost, Jesus, the Bible, separation from the world, repentance, eternal life, etc.

Amen bro, amen.

Evang.Benincasa · #**283** 08-13-2017, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Organizations don't preach. Men do. And most men don't preach against HMH because its such an outlier, its like expecting an organizational decree regarding flat earth.

Again, I've been around apostolics from one coast to the other and in between, and never even heard of this stuff until these forums. Never even heard of it back in the days of Delphi forums, either.

I can't say the same, but I can say that it is a mixed bag.

Again, the organization has no statement saying that they believe it.
Many ministers don't believe it, and are vocal against it.

houston · #**284** 08-13-2017, 07:16 PM

I remember an evangelist telling the females in the church, "Let your hair down! Let your hair down!" He really worked them into a frenzy.

Maybe ILG and PO need to let their hair down... and shake it in the wind. If only they knew what witches know.

houston · #**285** 08-13-2017, 07:19 PM

I remember sitting in services where LS was the speaker. He told these stories about special powers women had because they didn't cut their hair. Strange, nothing stood out until years later after I joined a forum. LOL.

Maybe the average church goer isn't going to process this stuff. In one ear, out the other.

jediwill83 · #**286** 08-13-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by houston

I remember sitting in services where LS was the speaker. He told these stories about special powers women had because they didn't cut their hair. Strange, nothing stood out until years later after I joined a forum. LOL.

Maybe the average church goer isn't going to process this stuff. In one ear, out the other.

Dont mess with me dude...Ill have my wife shake her hair at you lol....maybe I can get her to shake her hair over my wallet.....

houston · #**287** 08-13-2017, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

Dont mess with me dude...Ill have my wife shake her hair at you lol....maybe I can get her to shake her hair over my wallet.....

If that works she can shake her hair over my wallet too

ILG · #**288** 08-13-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So, growth is no more growth if it is cut.

Then, by your logic "if a man have long hair-it is a shame unto him". If the hair of a woman is uncut hair, then as long as a man trims it, he's all good. It's not "long". This makes no sense.

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Is that what is says? It says hair as women. If we go with your idea of "long" we would need to determine what long is? Longer than a man? They cropped their hair, polling, which looked like what the Romans wore. Therefore if we discard growth, and take your "long" our lenght would be shoulder? That is what the Greek word means.

If we go by your idea, long means uncut, so men can trim the ends a little and have "short" hair.

ILG · #**289** 08-13-2017, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sis, when is a man or woman sinning?

That's a broad question. But I feel confident that it's not when a woman cuts her hair. If a man tries to control a woman by preaching she will go to hell if he doesn't interpret the bible the way he says she should, he could well be sinning against her if he is twisting her head. It's called abuse and it's what the Pharisees did and Jesus preached against that a lot.

ILG · #**290** 08-13-2017, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

Organizations don't preach. Men do. And most men don't preach against HMH because its such an outlier, its like expecting an organizational decree regarding flat earth.

Again, I've been around apostolics from one coast to the other and in between, and never even heard of this stuff until these forums. Never even heard of it back in the days of Delphi forums, either.

The people who have been harmed by this teaching are all over. If you listen.