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09-03-2017, 11:54 PM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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I am serious DB!
If not for you, I would have never figured this out....
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
This clearly includes us(the Church) into their future covenant(as per chapter 8).
You kept shoving it into my face and the Holy Ghost said..."look"!!!
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Why do you insist the new covenant is future? We have come to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant. That means we are in the new covenant, it is a present reality, it has already been made.
But you say the new covenant is future, not yet? That means you have no covenant with God, Sean.
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09-04-2017, 12:06 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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Why do you insist the new covenant is future? We have come to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant. That means we are in the new covenant, it is a present reality, it has already been made.
But you say the new covenant is future, not yet? That means you have no covenant with God, Sean.
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No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future, fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per Acts 1 and Jeremiah 31, Etc., but we the church are merely included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant.
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09-04-2017, 12:08 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per acts 1 and Jeremiah 31 Etc but we the church are included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant. |
How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?
Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
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09-04-2017, 12:14 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?
Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
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The covenant that we are included in, with future National Israel, cannot be fully revealed until Jesus Christ returns. Then the gifts will cease and we will see Christ personally.
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09-04-2017, 12:21 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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The covenant that we are included in, with future National Israel, cannot be fully revealed until Jesus Christ returns. Then the gifts will cease and we will see Christ personally.
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But you say it is partial covenant now.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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09-04-2017, 08:14 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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But you say it is partial covenant now.
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Right....
Gifts/coming of Jesus Christ:
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
Gifts/coming of Jesus Christ:
7 So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Same book, same subject reiterated. 
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09-04-2017, 12:16 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?
Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
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Yes, now we see through a glass Darkly, but then, face to face.
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09-04-2017, 12:18 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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Yes, now we see through a glass Darkly, but then, face to face.
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That's about perfection, completion not about eschatology.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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09-04-2017, 08:10 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
That's about perfection, completion not about eschatology.
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Oh, the more perfect you become, the more gifts of the Spirit leave you?
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09-04-2017, 12:09 AM
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Re: Dealing with North Korea
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Originally Posted by Sean
No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future, fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per Acts 1 and Jeremiah 31, Etc., but we the church are merely included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant. |
Also, you posted that the Church and National Israel are the same in the OT.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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