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09-18-2017, 04:56 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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No no no no . Do not become a preterist. the posts you write as a futurist are embarrassing to futurists. STAAAAY futurist, you are helping our cause so much.
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Then you better not answer my 2 questions, Mike.
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09-18-2017, 04:59 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
So, to answer your John 20 question: I see John 20 as a great example of what I said to you about how the Bible is " not written TO us but FOR us." Why I say this is because John 20:26 was written TO those specific disciples. That's what the Bible says. But the commentary in John 20:30-31 was written FOR the biblical growth of those who would later read it.
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
That is not written to you, as you say.
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09-18-2017, 05:02 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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The reason I asked why John 20:30-31 is worded as it is, is because it is one area where the Apostle John added his commentary. Another area is found in the very next chapter of John. If you pay attention, you'll see it is worded very similarly to John 20:30.
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Who was he addressing in his commentary?
You or someone else?
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09-18-2017, 05:03 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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So, to answer your John 20 question: I see John 20 as a great example of what I said to you about how the Bible is " not written TO us but FOR us." Why I say this is because John 20:26 was written TO those specific disciples. That's what the Bible says. But the commentary in John 20:30-31 was written FOR the biblical growth of those who would later read it.
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
That is not written to you, as you say.
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I know I'll regret this, but please explain what the above means.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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09-18-2017, 05:05 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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John 20:26....And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
So, the audience included Thomas and the other Apostles and a number of disciples. Again, that is book, chapter, and verse.
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He wrote this...
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
to those guys above?....
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09-18-2017, 05:05 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Who was he addressing in his commentary?
You or someone else?
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I already answered that in the original post.
Please, read what is found there and stop asking others to do your reading for you.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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09-18-2017, 05:06 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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John 20:26....And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
So, the audience included Thomas and the other Apostles and a number of disciples. Again, that is book, chapter, and verse.
He wrote this...
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
to those guys above?....
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Again, already answered.
Again, you're asking others to do your reading.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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09-18-2017, 05:08 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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I know I'll regret this, but please explain what the above means.
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LOL
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Your words....
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not written TO us but FOR us
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Now, can you see the problem?
If something is written to get YOU to believe and YOU to have eternal life, it is not written to YOU?
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09-18-2017, 05:14 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
Lets face it TK.
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
God/John NEVER wrote that to you(preterists), because you reject that idea altogether.
However, I believe God/John wrote that to me.
To me it is not a documentary, but a far reaching word from God.
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09-18-2017, 05:16 PM
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Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
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Are you saying that Jesus was never involved in personally speaking to the next 1900 years of believers, but just them?
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How on earth do you get such ideas? You should write comedy!
I believe "Sean" may just be a persona you use for this forum.
It's hard to believe you truly come up with the bizarro posts you do unless you deliberately write them that way.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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