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01-04-2018, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
It's more like the congregation viewing the pastor as a lecturer. They listen, but don't participate.
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That, but also some really aren't guiding in a Spritual manner.
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01-04-2018, 08:05 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
That, but also some really aren't guiding in a Spritual manner.
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Joel Osteen-ish
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01-05-2018, 04:00 PM
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by houston
Joel Osteen-ish
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That started a trend and showed people how they can get huge crowds.
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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01-05-2018, 04:38 PM
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Not riding the train
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
That started a trend and showed people how they can get huge crowds.
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Right, and started a new doctrine - you don't need the Holy Spirit to be saved, you just need it for empowerment - if you want that, but it isn't necessary.
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01-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Right, and started a new doctrine - you don't need the Holy Spirit to be saved, you just need it for empowerment - if you want that, but it isn't necessary.
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It showed you don't need doctrine at all. Just talk about how good people are and never mention sin.
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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01-05-2018, 08:37 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Join Date: Nov 2010
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Right, and started a new doctrine - you don't need the Holy Spirit to be saved, you just need it for empowerment - if you want that, but it isn't necessary.
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That’s not new.
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01-05-2018, 08:40 PM
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Isaiah 56:4-5
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by mfblume
That started a trend and showed people how they can get huge crowds.
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The huge crowds are drawn to it because it’s all about “me.” If sin is mentioned it is in a generic manner. People return for their weekly dose of therapy.
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01-05-2018, 09:13 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
Is America entering a Religious Dark Ages?
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01-05-2018, 09:15 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood too
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
Oh, sorry Brother Blume
Is America and Canada entering a Religious Dark Age?
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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01-05-2018, 09:44 PM
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Unvaxxed Pureblood
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Re: Pastors or Life Coaches?
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Is America entering a Religious Dark Ages?
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I think we entered those days back in the 1930s or 40s. Definitely by the 50s.
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