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Old 01-11-2018, 09:01 AM
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Re: Do angels have free will?

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Humans have free will on the basis of not having obtained immortality (1 Cor 15), not having eaten from the tree of life and sealed our destiny yet (Genesis 3). We have been made a little lower than the angels. (Ps 8:2-7)

Angels, having been created immortal, have no recourse for sin.
(Rev 12:7-12) (Rev 20:15)
Both humans and angels can choose to obey or disobey.

It seems there is a hierarchy of angels, so that if the head angel rebels all those under his command automatically follow, i.e., Satan and his angels.
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Both humans and angels can choose to obey or disobey.
It seems there is a hierarchy of angels, so that if the head angel rebels all those under his command
automatically follow, i.e., Satan and his angels.
That would mean that the angels under Lucifer had no free will!
What does that say about the rest of the angels?
Either they ALL have free wills, or NONE have free wills.

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Old 01-11-2018, 12:34 PM
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His NAME is Jesus!



That would mean that the angels under Lucifer had no free will!
What does that say about the rest of the angels?
Either they ALL have free wills, or NONE have free wills.

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you are probably right.
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Re: Do angels have free will?

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Both humans and angels can choose to obey or disobey.

It seems there is a hierarchy of angels, so that if the head angel rebels all those under his command automatically follow, i.e., Satan and his angels.


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His NAME is Jesus!

That would mean that the angels under Lucifer had no free will!
What does that say about the rest of the angels?
Either they ALL have free wills, or NONE have free wills.

Brother Villa

The fact that Lucifer could rebel indicated he had freewill.

Also, Satan's angels could be those angelic beings who got fed up and decided to follow Satan. Following Satan doesn't necessarily mean you're under his command. It simply means I choose to indulge in unrighteousness, hence, following in Satan's footsteps (or hoofsteps).
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Re: Do angels have free will?

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Iniquity: knowing what is right (truth), and not abiding in it.
The angels (not all) first committed iniquity, which is rebellion against the
Truth. They knew truth because they were created perfect (sinless). They
could not be punished because there was no law against iniquity in Eternity.

Sin: not knowing what is right (truth): and trying to do what is right
the wrong way.



ALL of the commandments, statutes, ordinances, etc., of God were directed
to man, to teach him the Way and eventually lead him to salvation through
the sacrifice of “…the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.”
We must also understand that all of those same commandments, statutes, and
ordinances, were also intended to bring all the rebellious angels to justice, to
receive their righteous punishment! If we study the “freeman” and the “slave”
in the Law, we find that the freeman is responsible for the actions of his slave(s)
(bond slave(s). If a slave killed another man’s slave, he could be punished
by the dead slave’s owner. But if the slave killed the SON of a freeman, then
the slave’s OWNER must pay “…an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.”

Satan was without sin and could not be judged or condemned although he had
committed iniquity in Eternity (where there was no laws). But when satan’s
slaves (servants) murdered a free (innocent) man (Jesus), they then condemned
themselves and their master! So what was the sin of the fallen angels? By
inciting sinful men (bound in sin) to kill the Lord Jesus, they and their lord
(satan) were found guilty of murder! Can you understand? “And when he (the
Holy Spirit) is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and
of judgment: of sin, because they believe not on me; of righteousness, because
I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; of judgment, because the prince
of this world is judged
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