I John 5:8?

[Michael The Disciple]

That verse was the first verse shown to me used to prove Oneness doctrine. These three ARE one, not agree in one.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

That verse was the first verse shown to me used to prove Oneness doctrine. These three ARE one, not agree in one.

That is awesome! In your studies, do you have any reference or documentation on how this verse came to be viewed and written both ways, ie, Oneness and Trinitarian?

Have you taught a lesson surrounding this passage?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

That is awesome! In your studies, do you have any reference or documentation on how this verse came to be viewed and written both ways, ie, Oneness and Trinitarian?

Have you taught a lesson surrounding this passage?

I see those as the witness in the earth As John 3:5 says the new birth would be, water and Spirit. While people fight over where is the blood applied, this scripture shows to me where it is upon the earth. That if you don't have all 3 witnessed the water and the Spirit you have not the blood. Which there's so many people that say oh well you just have to have the Spirit, or you just need to be baptized. But this scripture says that all 3 agree in one. You have to have all 3 or no new birth.

I see some sources just say 1 John 5:7 was added while others 5:8 also. Thats funny Brother Michael said it was one of the first scriptures shown to him to explain the oneness. For me it was a great revelation on salvation and the new birth, because they are the witness of whether your saved or not.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

I see those as the witness in the earth As John 3:5 says the new birth would be, water and Spirit. While people fight over where is the blood applied, this scripture shows to me where it is upon the earth. That if you don't have all 3 witnessed the water and the Spirit you have not the blood. Which there's so many people that say oh well you just have to have the Spirit, or you just need to be baptized. But this scripture says that all 3 agree in one. You have to have all 3 or no new birth.

I see some sources just say 1 John 5:7 was added while others 5:8 also. Thats funny Brother Michael said it was one of the first scriptures shown to him to explain the oneness. For me it was a great revelation on salvation and the new birth, because they are the witness of whether your saved or not.