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Old 04-04-2019, 07:38 PM
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That wasn’t the point of his article. He wasn’t writing from a proselytizing point of view. If he had done so, It would have unnecessarily driven a wedge between the two groups, making it an unwise choice on French’s part. Thankfully, he stuck to the facts.

It isn’t necessary to throw ourselves in front of every passing truck.
Then let them all go to hell?

That's not very supportive.

Was Jesus and His apostles driving a wedge between the groups in Israel?
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Then let them all go to hell?

That's not very supportive.

Was Jesus and His apostles driving a wedge between the groups in Israel?
Many evangelicals worship antichrist while claiming to worship God. How's that for an end time scenario? Who'd a thunk it?
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Many evangelicals worship antichrist while claiming to worship God. How's that for an end time scenario? Who'd a thunk it?
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Then let them all go to hell?

That's not very supportive.

Was Jesus and His apostles driving a wedge between the groups in Israel?
Are you saying that God stopped working because a Journalist wrote about religious ideology and not about the Gospel? Okay...
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Are you saying that God stopped working because a Journalist wrote about religious ideology and not about the Gospel? Okay...
You know I’m not saying that. But the article seems to be missing the Christian 101. Which is, Convert the Sinner? How am I supporting Israel if I’m not actively telling them to come out of their wall worshiping false Christless religion?

After all the article is about EVANGICALS?
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You know I’m not saying that. But the article seems to be missing the Christian 101. Which is, Convert the Sinner? How am I supporting Israel if I’m not actively telling them to come out of their wall worshiping false Christless religion?

After all the article is about EVANGICALS?
No, I am not sure you aren't saying that.

I think that you would agree that David French, for National Review, writes about Evangelicals from a secular mindset. I've read enough to know that his religious beliefs are mainstream

That also doesn't dismiss the fact that I agree with his quote I referenced in my post.

I don't look for Armageddon around every corner, I believe the Jewish people will have to account for Acts 2:38, as do the Apostles, and I am very glad we have them as a Democratic ally in the Middle East.

I also do believe that Paul respected the Jewish people and believed that God did as well or he wouldn't have written - "What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God."
Romans 3:1-2

They were entrusted with the Law of Moses, the psalms and the prophets - which testified of Jesus Christ. Did they know that? Not many of them did. Paul found out though, as have many others.

You don't really know what David French is saying by writing these words - "But the vast bulk of Evangelical support for Israel rests on faith in ancient promises, wonder at modern miracles,..."

Representing the National Review, it wouldn't be wise for him to blast out that the Jews are damned if they don't receive the Gospel. After all, if you think about it, that is the reason that AFF is a shell of its former self.

And the comment by Cenk at the Young Turks (located in French's article) was very clever, playing into the division between the two factions, three if you include Cenk's group.

"You know what's REAL anti-semitism? Right-wing Evangelical Christians supporting Israel because they think it will bring about the End Times where all of the Jews die. Worst anti-Semitism in the world!"

I am only responsible for what I do with the Gospel message, not what you do, David French or anyone else.

Nonetheless, I understand his point.
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Representing the National Review, it wouldn't be wise for him to blast out that the Jews are damned if they don't receive the Gospel. After all, if you think about it, that is the reason that AFF is a shell of its former self.
AFF is a shell of its former self because somebody isn't kissing talmudists' behinds?

That's funny, I thought it was because everybody went to Farcebook.
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No, I am not sure you aren't saying that.
Then let me spell it out for you. I'm not saying God stopped working because a Journalist is kissing the hind end of Israelis.

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I think that you would agree that David French, for National Review, writes about Evangelicals from a secular mindset. I've read enough to know that his religious beliefs are mainstream
No doubt, I totally agree. Yet, my point is what you clearly show us in this post.

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That also doesn't dismiss the fact that I agree with his quote I referenced in my post.
His quote concerning "the vast bulk of Evangelical support for Israel rests on faith in ancient promises, wonder at modern miracles, and a deep conviction that evil forces must not prevail against the Middle East’s most vibrant democracy." put simply, it means that Israel has ANCIENT PROMISES, Rabbi Tovia Singer and Jews for Judaism wholeheartedly believe. Wonders at MODERN MIRACLE???? Pray tell Mr French, what on earth could those be? Deep conviction that evil forces must not prevail over a foreign country, to the last drop of American blood? Simple Zionist shapeshifting Journalism.

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I don't look for Armageddon around every corner, I believe the Jewish people will have to account for Acts 2:38, as do the Apostles, and I am very glad we have them as a Democratic ally in the Middle East.
Yet, you have to admit with our little group (Pentecostals?Apostolics) sure look at Israel like they are the same people written about in the Bible. When factually they are not. I am more related to Kunta Kinte then any one of them is to Moses or King David.

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I also do believe that Paul respected the Jewish people and believed that God did as well or he wouldn't have written - "What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God."
Romans 3:1-2
Oh, no doubt, for sure, but Paul wasn't writing that about Louis Abramowitz, or Moe Greene. Paul was writing concerning those who were verifiable Judeans. Just like He was a verifiable Judean, and extremely verifiable FREEBORN Patrician Roman.

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They were entrusted with the Law of Moses, the psalms and the prophets - which testified of Jesus Christ. Did they know that? Not many of them did. Paul found out though, as have many others.
Emphasis on the word "were." The people who are called Israelis and Jews no more have a connection to God as your nearby Atheist.

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You don't really know what David French is saying by writing these words - "But the vast bulk of Evangelical support for Israel rests on faith in ancient promises, wonder at modern miracles,..."
Isn't that the beauty of it? A journalist by the name of George Orwell called it Newspeak. It speaks to the sub conscience, but to those who have taken the red pill it is as blatant as the cat dropping at a Thanksgiving feast on the dining room table.

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Representing the National Review, it wouldn't be wise for him to blast out that the Jews are damned if they don't receive the Gospel.
Yes, you are a thousand percent right and he wouldn't even be able to write for a coloring book. You can learn about that in a book written by PAUL FINDLEY "They Dare to Speak Out."

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After all, if you think about it, that is the reason that AFF is a shell of its former self.
Please, go on. I'm eager to learn.

Tell me what are you trying to say?

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And the comment by Cenk at the Young Turks (located in French's article) was very clever, playing into the division between the two factions, three if you include Cenk's group.
Cenk is a subhuman, who has self hating Armenian Ana Kasparian on a show called YOUNG TURKS!!!! How disgusting. Killers of Turkish, Armenian Jews and Armenian Christians.

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"You know what's REAL anti-semitism? Right-wing Evangelical Christians supporting Israel because they think it will bring about the End Times where all of the Jews die. Worst anti-Semitism in the world!"
Even a broken clock is right once a day. That is odd thing about classical dispensationalism. They throw the destruction of Jerusalem all the way into some far off future. Horse's bridal blood baths and the greatest holocaust ever seen. My mother got up from a church service and walked right out about the time she heard that one. I followed her out to see what was wrong. She told me "are you kidding me son?" Needless to say she was pretty chilly on the ride home.

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I am only responsible for what I do with the Gospel message, not what you do, David French or anyone else.

Nonetheless, I understand his point.
Sure, I totally understand. But the fact remains Evangelicals relation to supporting Israel has nothing to do with Bible. Where people are to become CHRISTIANS!!! It has everything to do with a clever eschatology that covertly removes the Body of Christ as being the apple of God's eye, to modern Jews whether they are religious or SECULAR.

Crazy stuff.
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