Qassem Soleimani.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

But my main concern is for my family, apostolic family, and friends. You know, we the people who the upper crust care nothing about. What’s in it for us?

Please explain, not sure if I’m understanding correctly.

War.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by diakonos

War.

Thank you

[Evang.Benincasa]

Soleimani, Los Zetas, and Mexican Mormons.

Really?

Anyone got the gears on how that all works?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by diakonos

War.

Thanks for the clarification on that.

[Nicodemus1968]

When you think about it, isn’t war what people desire. Doesn’t war bring the country that was founded on “God” together? Doesn’t it reunite us after all we’re so divided right now. War might do this country good, and I’m not talking about the so called war that remains on enemies land, the war this country desires is when it comes on our soil. Then the church can take up real arms and defend against the real threat of our democracy.

[Pressing-On]

I propose that we wait and see what happens. They said Trump would start a war with North Korea. Then they said a war would be eminent when Trump moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. Maybe along with the other terrorist leaders he has put down, we can remember that Iran isn’t a threat to us. They will want to survive more than they want to go to war. Trump has already stated that he doesn’t want and isn’t seeking a regime change. That means he isn’t wanting to go to war, he just wanted to retaliate against the man who also planned the Benghazi attack.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I propose that we wait and see what happens. They said Trump would start a war with North Korea. Then they said a war would be eminent when Trump moved the Embassy to Jerusalem. Maybe along with the other terrorist leaders he has put down, we can remember that Iran isn’t a threat to us. They will want to survive more than they want to go to war. Trump has already stated that he doesn’t want and isn’t seeking a regime change. That means he isn’t wanting to go to war, he just wanted to retaliate against the man who also planned the Benghazi attack.

The red is probably the best case scenario. Iran cannot fight a one on one with America. Also Russia would have to get involved, and they aren't looking for that. What I posted in blue is something in my opinion he has no control over. Presidents are in their job for 4 to 8 years, and therefore there is a bigger structure behind them which lasts far longer then the president. History shows us that the industrial military complex makes decisions on war beginning and moving around the globe.

[jediwill83]

Even Rome with all its training and superiority started to have issue with the Celts because while the Celts were more primitive, they were highly intelligent and they skirmished so much with the Roman legions that they began to learn the Roman strategy and techniques.


This isnt good folks.


We got a lot of angry people out there allllll over the world.


I can list conflict after conflict and meddling with things we had no good reason to be tampering with other than we wanted it our way and to heck with what these 3rd world brown people want right?


All this conflict has killed a lot of people and stirred up a lot of hatred and animosity. We can defend our actions all we want but the truth is that the survivors are learning and getting stronger and before too long will be a even more difficult enemy.


Church and sinner alike needs to learn how to pray and quick like cause this wont end how anyone expects or wants.

[Pressing-On]

We need to always keep in mind that both anger and fear can cause people to seek God. So, instead of praying as a victim, let us pray for our country and others that these times will cause them to seek someone higher. God is able.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

When you think about it, isn’t war what people desire.

Yes, very much so. Hence the reason why we have a professional military that never gets disbanded. Take the early Roman republic. The military was only assembled during times of war. The title dictator was only employed during times of war. During the time when Julius Caesar returns to Rome at the river Rubicon he retains the title dictator for life. The majority of Romans got over this pretty quick, and followed this pattern for the remainder of the empire. At first the senate was horrified because "dictator" for life was a danger since Rome's republic means the public thing. Meaning a democracy based on laws. Where the people are no longer under the dictum of a king. Yet, since people like one man rulership (which in reality no dictator or kingship is one man alone) the people followed like sheep. War is good for so many things. The Roman people benefited from war. and so did the elite of Rome.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Doesn’t war bring the country that was founded on “God” together? Doesn’t it reunite us after all we’re so divided right now.

Well, that is how it was early in the empire. It brought the Pax Romana. It lasted 200 years (basically). Yet, as the empire went through its periods from, exploration, pioneering, conquest, commerce, affluence, intellect, decadence, and finally decline and collapse. By the time of intellect, and decadence, the people can no longer be brought together through unity to fight a common enemy. look at the war of the Judeans 66-70 A.D.. Judah was absolutely segmented to such a degree she couldn't come together to fight a common enemy. Its internal factions maintained a environment which caused in fighting amongst the different groups within the walls of Jerusalem. While the Romans bashed against the walls the Judeans were killing each other inside the gates of the city. Destruction always comes from within. Church splits happen from within, when ecclesiastical bitterness is nurtured.
But, that church split never started immediately, it is gradual, like rot and termites. Which takes a beautiful building and reduces it to rubble. A marriage, a business partnership, a church family, an eldership, and finally a country. Goes through stages which ultimately bring it all crashing down. No common outside enemy can ever bring again their original solidarity.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

War might do this country good, and I’m not talking about the so called war that remains on enemies land, the war this country desires is when it comes on our soil.

On our soil? No my brother. While we wax hollywood in our thoughts to fantasize that we will become a band of brothers. All united as partisans fighting a Red Dawn like Wolverines. My opinion is that it will be more like a Zombie Holocaust. I have been through many a hurricane where gas, and other supplies are in demand. No electricity, no fuel, and people may come together in the beginning, after the problems aren't solved in short order, become ferocious. Guns being pulled on gas lines, weapons pulled in grocery stores over bottled water. Generators being stolen out of backyards while still running? Crimes committed all over the city due to the police are over taxed by hurricane damage and power outages. That is just a hurricane aftermath. But a war on our soil? Good God from Zion, I shudder to think what people would do to each other.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Then the church can take up real arms and defend against the real threat of our democracy.

Sadly some would be killing each other before they even had one enemy soldier come through the front doors of the church building. The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, therefore if we can't even get that straight, how on earth can we survive the approaching storm.