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Old 04-03-2020, 11:49 AM
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Re: Tony Spell has church in spite of the ban

So you see this not as a right or wrong thing and good testimony towards God, but about politics and conspiracy theories we need to overthrow.

This is of course with the assumption that you can't have church and obey the Hebrews verse, unless you gather a large amount of people in a building and they hear the voice of their theocrat (term Spell used in recent interview referring to himself).

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Old 04-03-2020, 12:05 PM
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So you see this not as a right or wrong thing and good testimony towards God, but about politics and conspiracy theories

This is of course with the assumption that you can't have church and obey the Hebrew scripture, unless you gather a large amount of people in a building and they hear the voice of their theocrat (term Spell used in recent interview referring to himself).
This of course under the assumption internet church/live streaming of biblical preaching has a long future. I have no evidence that points to government tolerance of these services in the future as some suggest. If you believe you have "Rights" that will be honored by a country that has turned against God, Well that's what they call "drinking the KOOLAID" .

Facebook and other social media sites already limit free speech, what arguement do you offer , of "protection" on any platform requiring a government controlled internet connection?

Or, perhaps you believe in home church? I lean toward this being the will of God.
In this case all of this other stuff is just an obvious indicator of the Kings of the earth giving their power to the beast(Satan) , whose will is to make war with the saints of God. I think these things are a reminder of the times we live in. When the devil stood at the foot of the woman,(and his effort was fruitless) he went to make war with the remnant of her seed....when religion(most church house style gatherings, prayer in school, existence of family in the mainstream, marriage, morals)have been driven from mainstream society, including online platforms(which is all but accomplished) the enemy will put in the hearts of political leaders to crack down on house churches, in an effort to erase any reminder of God from the face of the earth.
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Old 04-03-2020, 12:14 PM
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This of course under the assumption internet church/live streaming of biblical preaching has a long future. I have no evidence that points to government tolerance of these services in the future as you suggest. If you believe you have "Rights" that will be honored by a country that has turned against God, Well that's what they call "drinking the KOOLAID" .

Facebook and other social media sites already limit free speech, what arguement do you offer , of "protection" on any platform requiring a government controlled internet connection?
First, small gatherings, as the church under persecution did, is a totally possible way to still gather with the body of Christ. Small gatherings are still OK, and you won't be blamed of flooding the hospitals.

Second, this is a temporary situation, not a ban on church. You may argue that it is going to be too long or there is a conspiracy behind, but if I see that after a while I can't gather I would myself start having house churches (in fact, I have already started having small gatherings to worship, seek God and teach with extended family, still under 10, though).

Third, God allowed the technology and the interconnection we have to speed up the spread of the Gospel and also to bring the end. In places where persecution is high and little amount of Christians, people come to Christ and grow through broadcasting, and have received salvation as in Acts 2:38. See testimonies from overseas. If God gave us the interconnection technology, use it, it is in his will.

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Old 04-03-2020, 12:26 PM
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First, small gatherings, as the church under persecution did, is a totally possible way to still gather with the body of Christ. Small gatherings are still OK, and you won't be blamed of flooding the hospitals.

Second, this is a temporary situation, not a ban on church. You may argue that it is going to be too long or there is a conspiracy behind, but if I see that after a while I can't gather I would myself start having house churches (in fact, I have already started having small gatherings to worship, seek God and teach with extended family, still under 10, though).

Third, God allowed the technology and the interconnection we have to speed up the spread of the Gospel and also to bring the end. In places where persecution is high and little amount of Christians, people come to Christ and grow through broadcasting, and have received salvation as in Acts 2:38. See testimonies from overseas. If God gave us the interconnection technology, use it, it is in his will.
There is already a church ( not apostolic ) being attacked by the media in Sacramento for having house church with small numbers.
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There is already a church ( not apostolic ) being attacked by the media in Sacramento for having house church with small numbers.
Yeah I can see the enemies taking advantage and going for all heads.
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First, small gatherings, as the church under persecution did, is a totally possible way to still gather with the body of Christ. Small gatherings are still OK, and you won't be blamed of flooding the hospitals.

Second, this is a temporary situation, not a ban on church. You may argue that it is going to be too long or there is a conspiracy behind, but if I see that after a while I can't gather I would myself start having house churches (in fact, I have already started having small gatherings to worship, seek God and teach with extended family, still under 10, though).

Third, God allowed the technology and the interconnection we have to speed up the spread of the Gospel and also to bring the end. In places where persecution is high and little amount of Christians, people come to Christ and grow through broadcasting, and have received salvation as in Acts 2:38. See testimonies from overseas. If God gave us the interconnection technology, use it, it is in his will.
Do any of you remember pastors who took a stand against the internet?

Are some of these pastors that preached against internet, now preaching ON the internet?
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