Trump can't leave office

Originalist · #1 12-07-2020, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, do you even know why Julius Caesar wanted to cross the Rubicon? He believed, as did his men, that he was saving the Republic. The Roman government considered not disbanding his legion as insurrection, and treason. Isn't that what the Donald would be doing? By invoking the Insurrection Act he would be putting the Posse Comitatus Act on hold, and allow the people of the United States to be under a military rule. Just as Caesar when he rode with his legions into the city of Rome. Brother, I honestly don't know what you are wanting to achieve. Do you have children? Do you have a wife? Are you part of a church fellowship with women and children? We as Christians pray for our leaders that we be kept in peace. In other words, that they leave us alone.

Bro, civilians in a war situation on their own land is not a good look at any speed. Lines of refugees from a burned out bombed out cities can't be what you are looking for. Because that is what happened with the last Civil War in the United States.

While I don't think that will happen, because no matter how virtuous you believe Trump to be, he wants to get on with the show. If Biden gets in that is what the Lord wants, because that is what we as a people so much deserve. Maybe having a president with dementia, and a silly twit as a VP will bring us to our knees of repentance and prayer? Don't you think we need that more than the 4th of July, sweet tea, and cheesy corn bake eaten to the tune, "I'm proud to be an American?"

I'm actually thinking of Cincinnatus.

Evang.Benincasa · #2 12-07-2020, 07:07 PM

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I'm actually thinking of Cincinnatus.

Yes, forsaking the plow to become a dictator. Then as soon as the emergency is over return to the plow. He was a hero to the old Republic at a time the Republic wasn't corrupt. Yet, it is a the people who create a Lucius Cornelius Sulla. There is where the die was cast. Julius Caesar was a ripe apple which the people were awaiting to pick. God places rulers above us, we so much want, and so much deserve. God wants to be our King, but sadly we want no king but Caesar. We so desire a king like all the other nations.

Originalist · #3 12-08-2020, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Yes, forsaking the plow to become a dictator. Then as soon as the emergency is over return to the plow. He was a hero to the old Republic at a time the Republic wasn't corrupt. Yet, it is a the people who create a Lucius Cornelius Sulla. There is where the die was cast. Julius Caesar was a ripe apple which the people were awaiting to pick. God places rulers above us, we so much want, and so much deserve. God wants to be our King, but sadly we want no king but Caesar. We so desire a king like all the other nations.

I don't see this "give us a king" attitude from Trump supporters.

Evang.Benincasa · #4 12-08-2020, 09:56 AM

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I don't see this "give us a king" attitude from Trump supporters.

Don't take this the wrong way. Because I really don't know what you can or cannot see. But, sometimes when people are in the middle of a movement they don't realize what is going on around them. Or, they just let things go through a simple application of cognitive dissonance. It is like when we go over to Aunt Biddy Jean's house. She has 14 cats and four litter boxes. Everyone who visits her knows she has these friendly felines. Even if they cannot see them. Because they can smell them. Even if Aunt Biddy Jean is the cleanest cat lady in the world, we who are on the outside entering her home can still smell them. I'm going to say something here that might be pretty unpopular, but again don't take it the wrong way. I see parallels between Hitler's movement and what we are seeing around Trump. When Brother Esaias mentioned Pisistratus. I immediately thought about how he appealed to the farmers, the cattle owners, shepards, of Athens. A literal let's Make Athens Great Again. Pisistratus totally understood the art of the deal, from the very first time he hopped out of his chariot at the gates of Athens.
Everyone loves the the tough guy, the hard guy, the lets get things done guy. But fact of the matter is that these men didn't rule alone. No one ever does. they need a strong base group of Stormtroopers. Marjorie Greene U.S. Rep for Georgia 14th District, makes no bones about what she is about. People love it. Hey, I'm all about gun rights, I'm not about nut's rights. Yes, we are tired, our system isn't broken, because broken can be repaired. Our system is shot out. We are now just in a constant roll towards further rot and decay.
Athens was ripe for a Pisistratus, he didn't even need to bring is body builder girlfriend with him. Hitler, well you know the story on how Germany was ripe for the Nationalist Socialist Party. People are tired of killing themselves everyday, from dark to dark, then coming home with nothing to show. The woman who complied with the rules of her city. Only to find out that the politician prostitute Mayor Eric Garcetti has catered to the Movie Industry who really is the bread N butter in California. She is tired, frustrated and fed up. She isn't alone, in the United States. But if you watch her video all the way to the end. You listen to her last statements, "we need YOUR help! We need someone to do something about...this!" That's when the Pisistratus, the Hitlers, and the Trumps of this world step right up. America the United States were taught from childhood on up. That when hypocrisy of government is slapping you in the face. You are to rise up and crush the serpent's head. Death to the Cylons! Yet, we are civilized, we were always taught about that old piece of parchment hanging in the museum called the Constitution. We just need a Hero! Captain America! But, if he isn't available, will always take Thanos. Come to think of it Thanos just might get the job done faster. His results more permanent.

https://twitter.com/SpencerKlavan/st...07535070253057

Someone send Mayor Garcetti a violin, a toga, and a wreath of laurel

Ehud · #5 12-08-2020, 03:35 PM

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We just need a Hero! Captain America! But, if he isn't available, will always take Thanos.

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It's a bit scary just how well this analogy seems to fit, elder. A very sad state of affairs.

Evang.Benincasa · #6 12-08-2020, 07:43 PM

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It's a bit scary just how well this analogy seems to fit, elder. A very sad state of affairs.

Sadly people under right set of circumstances will take any port in a storm.

Every tyrant in history was born out of the people's need to end political suffering in a hurry.