Merry Christmas to one and all !!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Why can't the folks defending pagan holy days just point out the Scriptures that support their religious practices? Don't Christians follow the Bible?

Or am I on the wrong forum?

In the first place, nobody is defending pagan holidays or celebrating them. I guess that makes you a liar.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

In the first place, nobody is defending pagan holidays or celebrating them. I guess that makes you a liar.

You and at least one other poster here have defended people celebrating Christmas, which is a pagan holiday.

So I guess that makes you incapable of having a discussion.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You and at least one other poster here have defended people celebrating Christmas, which is a pagan holiday.

So I guess that makes you incapable of having a discussion.

My contention is that there is nothing in scripture forbidding setting aside a particular day to emphasize one aspect of Christ (his birth, death, etc). By saying that, I am neither condoning nor defending going to a Catholic mass and practicing all the RCC aspects of how they celebrate Christmas. You thus remain, a liar.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

My contention is that there is nothing in scripture forbidding setting aside a particular day to emphasize one aspect of Christ (his birth, death, etc). By saying that, I am neither condoning nor defending going to a Catholic mass and practicing all the RCC aspects of how they celebrate Christmas. You thus remain, a liar.

You remain a false accuser. Your contentions were refuted pages ago. You also remain gifted in the fallacy department with your continued straw men, red herrings, and non sequiturs.

Have fun storming the castle.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Esaias

You remain a false accuser. Your contentions were refuted pages ago. You also remain gifted in the fallacy department with your continued straw men, red herrings, and non sequiturs.

Have fun storming the castle.

Stop projecting onto me the very things YOU are guilty of.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Stop projecting onto me the very things YOU are guilty of.

Sure thing, dude.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

My contention is that there is nothing in scripture forbidding setting aside a particular day to emphasize one aspect of Christ (his birth, death, etc). By saying that, I am neither condoning nor defending going to a Catholic mass and practicing all the RCC aspects of how they celebrate Christmas. You thus remain, a liar.

Seriously, your thinking is extremely flawed. We are not to incorporate other religious practices with the practice of following Jesus. Jesus wasn't born in December 25th. Mithra, yes, Jesus no. Again, we wouldn't even be having this discussion if you were born and raised in the Eastern part of the Roman Empire. Russians who are raised in Orthodoxy don't even acknowledge December 24th and the 25th. If the Romans didn't baptize Mithraism into their ideology of their church. You wouldn't even care about December 25th. So, your protection and defense of this day is simply sentimental and within the tradition you were raised in.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Seriously, your thinking is extremely flawed. We are not to incorporate other religious practices with the practice of following Jesus. Jesus wasn't born in December 25th.

If I simply am meditating and contemplating an aspect of Christ, and am not burning incense, lighting candles, ringing bells, etc, then I am pretty sure I have not "incorporated other religions" into my practice.


Mithra, yes, Jesus no.


And, right or wrong, the Empire may have hijacked Mirthra's day as a way to RESIST paganism. But that day does not belong to Mirthra because Mirthra is a fable. Celebrating the birth of Christ on that day does NOT constitute paganism.


Again, we wouldn't even be having this discussion if you were born and raised in the Eastern part of the Roman Empire. Russians who are raised in Orthodoxy don't even acknowledge December 24th and the 25th.

Who cares? Why give so much attention to a 24-hour revolution of the sun? Mexicans celebrate January 6. Big whoop!! We merit NOTHING from God by celebrating or not celebrating on these days.


If the Romans didn't baptize Mithraism into their ideology of their church. You wouldn't even care about December 25th. So, your protection and defense of this day is simply sentimental and within the tradition you were raised in.

Again, if they did as you say, they did so in order to SUPPLANT the memory of Mithraism, which is commendable.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I guess that makes you a liar.

Is this how you treat your friends?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Is this how you treat your friends?

I'm the one being lied about. Is that how friends are treated?