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07-02-2007, 09:19 AM
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"Taliban", "Communist", "Fascist", etc. are broad brushes, when used TIC, and the first thing that comes to mind is not usually the attrocities and genocides, at least for me. It's the heavy-handed authoritarianism, extreme control, and harsh rules and laws.
"Auschwitz" is much more specific, and can only bring up images of the horrible genocide. It was a poor choice, and NLYP finally admitted this and apologized for it.
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07-02-2007, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy
"Taliban", "Communist", "Fascist", etc. are broad brushes, when used TIC, and the first thing that comes to mind is not usually the attrocities and genocides, at least for me. It's the heavy-handed authoritarianism, extreme control, and harsh rules and laws.
"Auschwitz" is much more specific, and can only bring up images of the horrible genocide. It was a poor choice, and NLYP finally admitted this and apologized for it.
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Taliban is a fair comparison in my book because of the "moral" legalism they foisted on people.
Nazi's were secular and that was not their focus. Theirs was the evil of believing they were genetically superior and a hatred of Jews. Both resulted in unspeakable atrocities.
The Taliban also engaged in unspeakable atrocities but those aspects of them are not what the comparison was about.
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07-02-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Taliban is a fair comparison in my book because of the "moral" legalism they foisted on people.
Nazi's were secular and that was not their focus. Theirs was the evil of believing they were genetically superior and a hatred of Jews. Both resulted in unspeakable atrocities.
The Taliban also engaged in unspeakable atrocities but those aspects of them are not what the comparison was about.
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The Nazi reference that comes to mind for me is how "citizens" would inform on each other and stuff like that... and the "Hitler Youth" who were recruited but then encouraged that informing on their friends and families actually made them more patriotic, etc.
But I guess since we are prohibited by political correctness from ever comparing anything to Germany during that time, we aren't allowed to use any of the more obscure references either.
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07-02-2007, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
The Nazi reference that comes to mind for me is how "citizens" would inform on each other and stuff like that... and the "Hitler Youth" who were recruited but then encouraged that informing on their friends and families actually made them more patriotic, etc.
But I guess since we are prohibited by political correctness from ever comparing anything to Germany during that time, we aren't allowed to use any of the more obscure references either.
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Right, so get back to work!!!
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07-02-2007, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad
The Nazi reference that comes to mind for me is how "citizens" would inform on each other and stuff like that... and the "Hitler Youth" who were recruited but then encouraged that informing on their friends and families actually made them more patriotic, etc.
But I guess since we are prohibited by political correctness from ever comparing anything to Germany during that time, we aren't allowed to use any of the more obscure references either.
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I would agree with you somewhat. There were Nazis who were being patriotic to their Motherland...my main beef is with the Auschwitz comment...get it? How about phonics for ya...AHH SHA WITZ!!!!! Trust me good sir when I say that the monkey is about as far from PC you can get! I have the jokes to prove it.
But Auschwitz does NOT convert over to his points that he was feebly attempting to convey...
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07-02-2007, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
But Auschwitz does NOT convert over to his points that he was feebly attempting to convey...
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Can you see this Dan? Whatever your message was in your original post has been totally obscured by your attitude. Less attitude might help your message go further.
I say this as minister to minister.
Adding it all up,
the bottom line is a
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07-02-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Straightline
Can you see this Dan? Whatever your message was in your original post has been totally obscured by your attitude. Less attitude might help your message go further.
I say this as minister to minister.
Adding it all up,
the bottom line is a
Straightline
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And that will carry more weight with him, since he thinks non-minister posters are on a lower level.
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07-02-2007, 10:28 PM
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07-02-2007, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Straightline
Can you see this Dan? Whatever your message was in your original post has been totally obscured by your attitude. Less attitude might help your message go further.
I say this as minister to minister.
Adding it all up,
the bottom line is a
Straightline
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He'll listen to you then.
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07-02-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Timmy
"Taliban", "Communist", "Fascist", etc. are broad brushes, when used TIC, and the first thing that comes to mind is not usually the attrocities and genocides, at least for me. It's the heavy-handed authoritarianism, extreme control, and harsh rules and laws.
"Auschwitz" is much more specific, and can only bring up images of the horrible genocide. It was a poor choice, and NLYP finally admitted this and apologized for it.
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Auschwitz and Communist all bring to mind, for me, the harsh rule of law during that horrible time. I still believe that is what NLYP was conveying.
I don't know anyone that uses the expression "Auschwitz" to reflect the genocide in context when speaking about authoritative situations. JMHO.
IMO, there is no difference in the "Taliban" and "Auschwitz". Both are extreme, oppressively authoritative and involve genocide.
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