For those who believe in a post-trib rapture...

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Eliseus

Brother, let me say that I do NOT believe in any 'pre trib' rapture doctrine.

However, I do not believe in a yet future seven or 3.5 year period specifically called 'THE GREAT TRIBULATION". I DO believe that Tribulation was forecast by our Lord and His apostles and prophets for the church, and would last until Jesus returned.

I also believe that as the days wear on, the persecutions would increase, and tribulation would increase.

I also believe that the evidence is in and clearly available for all to see... tribulation is coming to America. Sooner than most think, actually.

Yes we are called to suffer for his name. So were the first century disciples. Yet they did not just lay down and allow persecution to run rampant against them - they made preparations, they were mobile, they 'snuck around' government and societal persecution in order to keep the true Gospel message abounding, they saw famine coming and made preparations to help the poor among them to survive it...

All such things I see the church in America utterly incapable of even properly conceiving of doing in their lifetime.

Yes God will provide. He provided for Noah. It was done via a command to BUILD AN ARK and GET IN IT.

We had a lot of food preps at one time. We wound up using and giving a lot away. I simply cant afford to put aside what I did back then. If anyone can afford to put back in abundance it is wise to do so.

One thing we did do is move from a fairly large city in Ohio to a rural area in Ky. That buys us some extra time in Tribulation possibly. To be mobile and led by the Spirit will be very important.

I am not against you I am for you!

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We had a lot of food preps at one time. We wound up using and giving a lot away. I simply cant afford to put aside what I did back then. If anyone can afford to put back in abundance it is wise to do so.

One thing we did do is move from a fairly large city in Ohio to a rural area in Ky. That buys us some extra time in Tribulation possibly. To be mobile and led by the Spirit will be very important.

I am not against you I am for you!

I hope I did not give you the impression I thought you were 'against' me, brother!

I agree, mobility is important.

You know, in researching this concept of 'preparation', I found out that a lot of what people today would call 'survival preparedness' is what people 100 years ago would have just considered regular living.

I remember reading the Little House on the Prairie books to my kids years ago. Ma and Pa were what today would be called 'survivalists', although in their day they were just regular people doing regular things.

Having 50 pounds of salt, 50 pounds of beans, 50 pounds of flour, hunting for their own meat, growing their own vegetables, bartering for the things they did not have....

In fact, my grandparents lived pretty much a similar life... dirt poor but always had food because they grew or raised their own and bartered for what they did not have...

I just feel that hard times are coming to America, and a LOT of people are not prepared in any way shape or form to deal with it.