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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Where does it say in the New Testament to retaliate against an attacker is the better question? Thank you Elder.

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.

Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?

Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.

Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?

Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?

brother strange my esteemed brother, i am reminded of a friend who shall remain nameless who invited me to his house for new years 2000, he did not own a gun but requested i have mine with me, this is the kind of mentality that i run into all the time, and if i or anyone waits until it is to late to be prepared to defend my family then it is just that, to late, love you brother, dt

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.

Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?

Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?

Then are you saying that you would be able to teach your position by using the New Testament? I'm not asking you where it doesn't say something I'm asking you to tell me where it does say you can use deadly force to protect yourself and family.

Lord bless you Elder and protect your family.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Then are you saying that you would be able to teach your position by using the New Testament? I'm not asking you where it doesn't say something I'm asking you to tell me where it does say you can use deadly force to protect yourself and family.

Lord bless you Elder and protect your family.

In Jesus Name

Brother Benincasa

www.OnTimeJournal.com

Brother Ben, you know that I love and highly admire you for many reasons but here we have a difference in opinions that is all. You and I both believe the N.T. for exactly what it says. But, our perspectives vary on the subject of "charity," which is the elementary component of this subject.

Where does the bible teach us to consult a physician? Where does the bible teach us to clean our bodies and put on some cologone? Where does the bible teach us to stay home and not plant a garden? Surely he is able to provide. He is able to love us just as much if we neve take a bath.

Trusting God for healing, provisions and protection is faith in God. It is a work of Charity,which is love in action, to do what we can do within the bonds of love and reason to fulfill our God given position as not only provider but protector of our families too. Does that mean that God is not both provider and protector? No. It does mean that there are somethings that are just reasonalbe without any scriptural prohibitions.

The bible teaches me to love my neighbor. To allow him to perpetuate whatever evil he decides to do on my wife, children and grandchildren is not loving my neighbor. It is just the opposite. To stand by and let him do his evil without being stopped by whatever means at my disposal is not only NOT loving my family but it is NOT loving the evil man either.

Sometimes charity is called upon to go to extremes. We should always be ready to exercise the discipline upon the wayward whenever it is needed. God is not unreasonable.

Just now, I am reminded of the Quaker at the top of the stairs in his home finding a burglar at the bottom of his stairs in the middle of the night. He leveled his shotgun on the burglar and said to him, "Friend, I mean thee no harm but thou art standing where I am about to start shooting."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Brother Ben, you know that I love and highly admire you for many reasons but here we have a difference in opinions that is all. You and I both believe the N.T. for exactly what it says. But, our perspectives vary on the subject of "charity," which is the elementary component of this subject.

Where does the bible teach us to consult a physician? Where does the bible teach us to clean our bodies and put on some cologone? Where does the bible teach us to stay home and not plant a garden? Surely he is able to provide. He is able to love us just as much if we neve take a bath.

Trusting God for healing, provisions and protection is faith in God. It is a work of Charity,which is love in action, to do what we can do within the bonds of love and reason to fulfill our God given position as not only provider but protector of our families too. Does that mean that God is not both provider and protector? No. It does mean that there are somethings that are just reasonalbe without any scriptural prohibitions.

The bible teaches me to love my neighbor. To allow him to perpetuate whatever evil he decides to do on my wife, children and grandchildren is not loving my neighbor. It is just the opposite. To stand by and let him do his evil without being stopped by whatever means at my disposal is not only NOT loving my family but it is NOT loving the evil man either.

Sometimes charity is called upon to go to extremes. We should always be ready to exercise the discipline upon the wayward whenever it is needed. God is not unreasonable.

Just now, I am reminded of the Quaker at the top of the stairs in his home finding a burglar at the bottom of his stairs in the middle of the night. He leveled his shotgun on the burglar and said to him, "Friend, I mean thee no harm but thou art standing where I am about to start shooting."

I love you Elder and you have been so kind to me and I do appreciate you very much. Can you tell me where you are getting the word "charity”?

From where are you getting the word?

In Jesus name

Brother Benincasa

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