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08-16-2007, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
No sir...
Not in the forehead.
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Arm or leg?? then explain to him the error of his ways... convert him.. and pray for his healing???
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08-16-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Berkeley
Arm or leg?? then explain to him the error of his ways... convert him.. and pray for his healing???
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LOL...
Of course, he would be stopped...and that for certain. He would not harm my wife, children, grandchildren.
I would then doctor his wounds. Hopefully he will not die. I will also give him the only means of salvation. I would offer to baptize him in the name of Jesus too.
All of that and more while I am waiting on the police and the ambulance to come take him away. Hopefully, he would be fully converted from his wayward path before he left my home.
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08-16-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
No sir...
Not in the forehead.
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Lord bless you Elder, what would you then do with the weapon once you pulled it on the criminal?
If more than one attacker gained entrance to your home the odds would become greater in their behalf in overpowering the man (or woman) with the weapon? I love you and want to understand what would you do once the weapon is introduced into the altercation?
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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08-16-2007, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
Where does it say to sit home and let the Lord provide?
You all keep asking these circular questions that go nowhere.
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Where does it say in the New Testament to retaliate against an attacker is the better question? Thank you Elder.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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08-16-2007, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Where does it say in the New Testament to retaliate against an attacker is the better question? Thank you Elder.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.
Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?
Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?
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08-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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It must be known that I believe that Jesus would have me to love my enemy, pray for them that despitefully uses me, do good to them that would do me evil.
Stopping a criminal in his tracts that is intent on doing my family harm can have a life altering affect upon him, both physically and spiritually too. I will pray for him, I will render good for evil and I will also show my love for him too. Meanwhile, the dude is NOT going to harm my family.
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08-16-2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.
Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?
Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?
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brother strange my esteemed brother, i am reminded of a friend who shall remain nameless who invited me to his house for new years 2000, he did not own a gun but requested i have mine with me, this is the kind of mentality that i run into all the time, and if i or anyone waits until it is to late to be prepared to defend my family then it is just that, to late, love you brother, dt 
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08-16-2007, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
I do not think that the writings of the N.T. are absurd and beyond reason. I believe entirely in the New Testament and the doctrine of Charity. Defense of one's home and loved ones are entirely within the scope of Christian Charity.
Where does it say for a householder NOT to protect his family?
Where does it say for a householder NOT to plant a garden, but to show faith in the Lord his provider by NOT planting and harvesting?
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Then are you saying that you would be able to teach your position by using the New Testament? I'm not asking you where it doesn't say something I'm asking you to tell me where it does say you can use deadly force to protect yourself and family.
Lord bless you Elder and protect your family.
In Jesus Name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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08-16-2007, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
. . . the accusation that Nero made against the Christians were that they were violent and had started the fire that destroyed the city of Rome. Nero made the Christians out to be political enemies of the Roman Empire. Nero accusation was that these Christians were hostile and would use force to gain a kingdom.
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If you cannot see the difference between an isolated incident of armed assault, robbery, home intrusion, or rape, and systematic persecution of an ethnic or religious minority . . .
. . . then I cannot help you understand what I wrote earlier.
Forget about the guns and knives . . . if somebody attacks my daughter I will kill them with my bare hands if nothing of advantage is within reach. I'll worry about all the legal and religious implications later. It looks like you've got a woman and a couple of brats yourself. You would do well to make up your mind ahead of time to fight to the death and take a few hits without stopping if ever you are jumped by thugs. Your wife and children would probably like to know that Daddy won't need to deliberate and divinate if they ever need deliverance.
All the pious platitudes in the world won't change the fact that in your hour of need you'd rather be in my company than with your fellow conscientious objectors.
Have a great day, and be careful what all you do in Jesus' name.
Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
1 Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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08-16-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
If you cannot see the difference between an isolated incident of armed assault, robbery, home intrusion, or rape, and systematic persecution of an ethnic or religious minority . . .
. . . then I cannot help you understand what I wrote earlier.
Forget about the guns and knives . . . if somebody attacks my daughter I will kill them with my bare hands if nothing of advantage is within reach. I'll worry about all the legal and religious implications later. It looks like you've got a woman and a couple of brats yourself. You would do well to make up your mind ahead of time to fight to the death and take a few hits without stopping if ever you are jumped by thugs. Your wife and children would probably like to know that Daddy won't need to deliberate and divinate if they ever need deliverance.
All the pious platitudes in the world won't change the fact that in your hour of need you'd rather be in my company than with your fellow conscientious objectors.
Have a great day, and be careful what all you do in Jesus' name.
Matthew 18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
1 Timothy 5:8
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
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very wellput my brother, dt
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