Actually I responded to him and saw that like you and L&F you were just repeating the same strawman arguments about how the bible speaks against retribution and I got tired of reminding the peanut gallery that we are not talking about retribution. Hows your left cheek brother? You thinking more clearly today?
You were proved wrong Praxeas and Brother Matthew backed it up and you took off with your strawman. You frustrate quick and when you took off and left the thread I understood that you were never trying to strengthen your arguments and kept repeating the same mantra over and over.
I noticed a while back that you like to project your mistakes and game plan on to others. I know your mode of operation. Praxeas we have nothing to discuss, you haven't proved not one thing. You tried to attack Brother Matthew and he politely asked you to produce something. You didn't and shrank away.
Youre about done here Praxeas, unless you have something more profitable to present?
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You were proved wrong Praxeas and Brother Matthew backed it up and you took off with your strawman. You frustrate quick and when you took off and left the thread I understood that you were never trying to strengthen your arguments and kept repeating the same mantra over and over.
I noticed a while back that you like to project your mistakes and game plan on to others. I know your mode of operation. Praxeas we have nothing to discuss, you haven't proved not one thing. You tried to attack Brother Matthew and he politely asked you to produce something. You didn't and shrank away.
Youre about done here Praxeas, unless you have something more profitable to present?
If I left the thread why am I still here? I don't see you posting 24 hours a day. How sophomoric. Bother me when you actually have an intelligent argument to make and not just repeating the same nonsense you guys have beens spouting from the beginning. If you can do that and not repeat the same non-arguments over and over then I'll have more to offer here.
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The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
If I left the thread why am I still here? I don't see you posting 24 hours a day. How sophomoric.
Praxeas you were going like gang buster and then "poof"?
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Bother me when you actually have an intelligent argument to make and not just repeating the same nonsense you guys have beens spouting from the beginning. If you can do that and not repeat the same non-arguments over and over then I'll have more to offer here.
You can't stop yourself can you? Ok, so then you're ready to take Brother Matthew's challenge and present your case from the scriptures? Wonderful.
Show us the use of deadly force in the New Testament church.
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~Declaration of Independence
You can't stop yourself can you? Ok, so then you're ready to take Brother Matthew's challenge and present your case from the scriptures? Wonderful.
Show us the use of deadly force in the New Testament church.
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EB, do you realize how LONG of a wait this is going to be?
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You can't stop yourself can you? Ok, so then you're ready to take Brother Matthew's challenge and present your case from the scriptures? Wonderful.
Show us the use of deadly force in the New Testament church.
Why just in the New Testament?
See that proves you know you don't have a chance. You have to limit the scope of answers in order to win. That's like playing a game of football with someone and telling them the rules are THEY can't pass or run the ball. Not very honest.
You all never did answer MY questions I asked a long time ago about the death penalty or imprisonment.
BTW do you think Jesus is going to come back and have tea and cookies with his enemies or is he going to destroy them?
BTW when you can show me the use of a computer in the NT or internet or car, or church buildings, or pews or pulpits etc etc....then come talk to me.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Why just in the New Testament? See that PROVES you know you don't have a chance. You have to limit the scope of answers in order to win. That's like playing a game of football with someone and telling them the rules are THEY can't pass or run the ball. Not very honest.
Oh we are liars? Nice Praxeas, I guess Brother Matthew knows you well and was very fast to show that you were not ready to present any kind of argument from the scriptures. We still have you throwing a tantrum, but we still have no New Testament scriptures, or that Jesus used any OT to present any kind of opening for the Christian community to have a standing army. Please present your case. We are more than willing to see what you have to offer.
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You all never did answer MY questions I asked a long time ago about the death penalty or imprisonment.
L&F answered you, did you happen to view his post? Like I said go and present your case.
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BTW do you think Jesus is going to come back and have tea and cookies with his enemies or is he going to destroy them?
BTW when you can show me the use of a computer in the NT or internet or car, or church buildings, or pews or pulpits etc etc....then come talk to me.
Communication is found in the Bible Praxeas, clothes are found in the Bible, transportation is found in the Bible, eating meat is found in the Bible.
Your arguments are weak and you refuse to present anything scriptural.
The return of Christ is God destroying His enemies, not Christians taking up arms and killing His enemies, yet another one of your strawman arguments, yet again more proof of you projecting again.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Oh we are liars? Nice Praxeas, I guess Brother Matthew knows you well and was very fast to show that you were not ready to present any kind of argument from the scriptures. We still have you throwing a tantrum, but we still have no New Testament scriptures, or that Jesus used any OT to present any kind of opening for the Christian community to have a standing army.
lol, oh brother. Your posts get more and more sophomoric.
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Communication is found in the Bible Praxeas, clothes are found in the Bible, transportation is found in the Bible, eating meat is found in the Bible.
Your arguments are weak and you refuse to present anything scriptural.
The return of Christ is God destroying His enemies, not Christians taking up arms and killing His enemies, yet another one of your strawman arguments, yet again more proof of you projecting again.
Killing is found in the bible. And clearly you don't even know what the word "strawman argument" even means.
Pontificating and stomping your feet is not going to make you some how more right than everyone else, nor is repeating yourself over and over ad nauseum.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
lol, oh brother. Your posts get more and more sophomoric.
Killing is found in the bible. And clearly you don't even know what the word "strawman argument" even means.
Pontificating and stomping your feet is not going to make you some how more right than everyone else, nor is repeating yourself over and over ad nauseum.
More projecting? Are you married, have children?
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
lol, oh brother. Your posts get more and more sophomoric.
Killing is found in the bible. And clearly you don't even know what the word "strawman argument" even means.
Pontificating and stomping your feet is not going to make you some how more right than everyone else, nor is repeating yourself over and over ad nauseum.
When the enemies of God threatened the people of God, God ordered His people to take up arms and wait for the enemy. At times, He even ordered His people to enter the enemy camps while the enemy was sleeping and kill them all! According to Benni, God is a coward and guilty of premeditated murder for ordering those 'hits'!
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