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09-01-2007, 01:17 AM
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So, the term trinity wasn't even coined until late in the 2nd century, almost the third century. I can show you several manuscripts that were prior to that that used the term "one God" exclusively, and NEVER alluded to a "trinity"....
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ok...isn't 0-100 ad the first century? 101-200 the second? 201-300 the third?
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09-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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ok...isn't 0-100 ad the first century? 101-200 the second? 201-300 the third?
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yes, and 180 AD would be late second century (almost the beginning of the third century)...
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09-01-2007, 01:28 AM
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yes, and 180 AD would be late second century (almost the beginning of the third century)...
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So then Tertullian and Praxeas would be third century.
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09-01-2007, 02:13 AM
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So then Tertullian and Praxeas would be third century.
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Praxeas is recorded to have preached in Rome circa 190 AD, which would be in the concluding years of the 2nd century.... Praxeas doctrine was clearly monarchian... (i.e. oneness)
Tertullian wrote against Praxeas' teaching in the 200's somewhere, which would be the 3rd century...
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09-01-2007, 02:15 AM
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Praxeas is recorded to have preached in Rome circa 190 AD, which would be in the concluding years of the 2nd century.... Praxeas doctrine was clearly monarchian... (i.e. oneness)
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But Tertullians argument "Against Praxeas" is later isn't it?
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09-01-2007, 02:16 AM
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But Tertullians argument "Against Praxeas" is later isn't it?
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I just edited my post to include that information. You are correct, in the third century, but I am not sure of the exact year...
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09-01-2007, 02:48 AM
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But Tertullians argument "Against Praxeas" is later isn't it?
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Tertullian of Carthage ( 145-220), said of Jesus, "Christ is also God" because "that which has come forth from God [in the virgin birth] is at once God and the Son of God, and the two are one... in His birth. God and man united." Jesus is "both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God."9
http://www.johnankerberg.com/Article...s/AP0707W2.htmTertullian joined the Montanist's who were considered heretics as well. I think the word, heretic, was slung around pretty freely by the early church. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14520c.htm
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09-01-2007, 10:40 AM
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Tertullian of Carthage ( 145-220), said of Jesus, "Christ is also God" because "that which has come forth from God [in the virgin birth] is at once God and the Son of God, and the two are one... in His birth. God and man united." Jesus is "both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God."9
http://www.johnankerberg.com/Article...s/AP0707W2.htmTertullian joined the Montanist's who were considered heretics as well. I think the word, heretic, was slung around pretty freely by the early church. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14520c.htm |
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Yes, Tertullian believed that Jesus the Son was deity and eternally with the Father. Lord only knows what happen to him after he because a senior citizen! 
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09-01-2007, 12:12 PM
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But Tertullians argument "Against Praxeas" is later isn't it?
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A.D. 213 if my memory serve me correctly.
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