It seems to me that we all agree that God can do anything. In every one of our lives God has exchanged evil for good. I wonder why we dont recognize that?
I also find that while God can GO anywhere and DO anything, often, God only goes where WE take him and he does what we are WILLING to do in His name.
Sometimes we are too fearful to step out... RevRandy, I have a story or two like yours....
Sometimes we are too Holy to step in.
Wow! Good points Ferd.
Looks like the Moderates have spoken.......
But where are the libs and cons on this subject?
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
So, next time I see a blind man, I should walk up to him, lay hands on him, and say "In the name of Jesus, be healed!"?
Oh, but it probably wouldn't work for me, not being baptized in Jesus' name or a speaker of tongues, and all. I'll leave it to you guys.
Why haven't you been baptized? What’s stopping you? Have you asked God if the infilling of the Holy Ghost is real then let me have it?
Would it strike you as odd, that I think faith can move mountains even in someone not "filled" with the Holy Ghost. Look at the shysters whose main goal is to make money off the Gospel. Just because someone can lay hands on the sick doesn't mean Jesus even knows them. Don't look at the just the miraculous to verify if someone is of God look at the fruit their life produces. All leaves and no fruit is a tree good for nothing but to be cut down and cast into the fire.
There can be no fruit produced without the power. The leaves of a plant produce the power for life in a plant. Without the Sun, no power. Without the leaves, no fruit. Without fruit no fulfilling God's command to multiply.
Try it, lay hands on the blind man and beleive for his healing. the worst that can happen is nothing happens and he's no worse off.
I'd also suggest you find a place to form a connected, meaningful, relationship with Jesus, if you haven’t already.
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
Why haven't you been baptized? What’s stopping you?
I was baptized "in the titles", years ago.
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Have you asked God if the infilling of the Holy Ghost is real then let me have it?
Yes. I spoke in tongues. But it wasn't the HG speaking through me. I learned how to do it by watching others, like all the other kids around that altar. Fooled everyone. The initial "evidence" didn't serve the purpose of real evidence, did it? Can you tell when someone gets it for real?
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Would it strike you as odd, that I think faith can move mountains even in someone not "filled" with the Holy Ghost.
Not really. Placebos can do amazing things. Even OPs know that.
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Look at the shysters whose main goal is to make money off the Gospel. Just because someone can lay hands on the sick doesn't mean Jesus even knows them. Don't look at the just the miraculous to verify if someone is of God look at the fruit their life produces. All leaves and no fruit is a tree good for nothing but to be cut down and cast into the fire.
There can be no fruit produced without the power. The leaves of a plant produce the power for life in a plant. Without the Sun, no power. Without the leaves, no fruit. Without fruit no fulfilling God's command to multiply.
Power? Like they're talking about in the thread Do "OPs" Really Have More Power than other Christians? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that most don't think so. You'd think since they get it right, God would honor their faith more than anyone else's.
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Try it, lay hands on the blind man and beleive for his healing. the worst that can happen is nothing happens and he's no worse off.
And this would glorify God.... how?
A church I used to attend sent a missions team to Mexico. Came home with a picture of a little girl, standing up from her wheelchair, face beaming. Congregation loved it. But do you think that little girl is now running and playing with her friends? Think how she and her parents must feel about those Americans and the "God" they preached about. Are they "no worse off"? Is false hope better than no hope?
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I'd also suggest you find a place to form a connected, meaningful, relationship with Jesus, if you haven’t already.
I have, thanks.
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Yes. I spoke in tongues. But it wasn't the HG speaking through me. I learned how to do it by watching others, like all the other kids around that altar. Fooled everyone. The initial "evidence" didn't serve the purpose of real evidence, did it? Can you tell when someone gets it for real?
Not really. Placebos can do amazing things. Even OPs know that.
Power? Like they're talking about in the thread Do "OPs" Really Have More Power than other Christians? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that most don't think so. You'd think since they get it right, God would honor their faith more than anyone else's.
And this would glorify God.... how?
A church I used to attend sent a missions team to Mexico. Came home with a picture of a little girl, standing up from her wheelchair, face beaming. Congregation loved it. But do you think that little girl is now running and playing with her friends? Think how she and her parents must feel about those Americans and the "God" they preached about. Are they "no worse off"? Is false hope better than no hope?
I have, thanks.
Please understand I was not attacking you in the least. If you got that out of my posts then I am truly sorry. I meant every word with the sincere love of Christ. Posted words don't work near as well for me as the spoken word.
So you think none of this can be true, because you and other youngsters faked it as kids?
Being baptized in the titles is as great as those that were baptized into Johns baptism, yet when they heard the Message they were baptized again calling on the name of the Lord?
Timmy, I pray God's great blessings for you and yours!
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
Please understand I was not attacking you in the least. If you got that out of my posts then I am truly sorry.
Oh, I didn't, not at all! No need to apologize.
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I meant every word with the sincere love of Christ. Posted words don't work near as well for me as the spoken word.
So you think none of this can be true, because you and other youngsters faked it as kids?
Not just that. And actually, I don't think "none of this can be true". I'm somewhat open minded about it, but the overwhelming evidence I've seen is that it (that is, miracles, tongues, prophecy, etc.) is not literally true.
BTW, I would like to know: can you tell fake tongues from the real thing?
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Being baptized in the titles is as great as those that were baptized into Johns baptism, yet when they heard the Message they were baptized again calling on the name of the Lord?
Timmy, I pray God's great blessings for you and yours!
Thanks!
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Not just that. And actually, I don't think "none of this can be true". I'm somewhat open minded about it, but the overwhelming evidence I've seen is that it (that is, miracles, tongues, prophecy, etc.) is not literally true.
BTW, I would like to know: can you tell fake tongues from the real thing?
Thanks!
There are times when I feel I can discern the difference. But I'll leave that up to the Lord and the individual to work out. Now I have seen the real thing a few times. But I try never to tell anyone "You got it". If you have to tell them then there's some sort of issue there wouldn't you think?
Seriously, bad stuff goes on in the name of the miraculous, but that doesn't make Jesus any less powerful does it?
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"Do not believe everthing you read on the internet" - Abe Lincoln
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