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09-24-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
Christ is pro-everyone finding salvation and Him... He loves everyone no matter how much evil they might have done...
and His desire is for us to do the same...
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Yeah, and just to think that he loved Adolph Hitler (who met his untimely death) and Mussolini (same with him) and all of the "other countless dictators" who also met thier untimely death. In case you haven't noticed, Gods word has something to say about murderers.
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09-24-2007, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Yeah, and just to think that he loved Adolph Hitler (who met his untimely death) and Mussolini (same with him) and all of the "other countless dictators" who also met thier untimely death. In case you haven't noticed, Gods word has something to say about murderers.
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Yes, they did, and that is for God to decide, not us to sit here and cheer on...
We are to pray for and love everyone...
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09-24-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
Yes, they did, and that is for God to decide, not us to sit here and cheer on...
We are to pray for and love everyone...
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Well, you can love Adolph Hitler if you want to, but God supports the death penalty.
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09-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Yeah, and just to think that he loved Adolph Hitler (who met his untimely death) and Mussolini (same with him) and all of the "other countless dictators" who also met thier untimely death. In case you haven't noticed, Gods word has something to say about murderers.
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Hmmmm, are you saying God didn't love Hitler and Mussolini? Somehow that doesn't sound like God. Jesus did dies for them just as well as you and I. They just didn't except it. They choose poorly. You do know it's not God's will that any should perish, but that all come to repentance?
We do not have to like the unlikeable, but we are commanded to love the unlovable. Jesus loved us when we were His enemy. The carnal mind is the enemy of God.
I wonder what would happen if we'd (those who have read this thread) banded together for a season of prayer and fasting for MAD? You think God is powerful enough to give him ample opportunity to repent? What if they only way he'd repent is if his power and country where brought to nothing?
Maybe we'd do well to pray for God's Kingdom to come and His will be done on earth.
For the record :
I DO NOT LIKE AH- MAD-INEJAD. I wish every failure to come his way where his plans involve death and destruction.
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09-24-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
For the record :
I DO NOT LIKE AH- MAD-INEJAD. I wish every failure to come his way where his plans involve death and destruction.
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no use trying, they're still gonna tell you that you love terrorism and terrorists...
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09-24-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
no use trying, they're still gonna tell you that you love terrorism and terrorists...
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I was beginning to think I was being totally ignored.........
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Psa 119:165 (KJV) 165 Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.
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09-25-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RevDWW
Hmmmm, are you saying God didn't love Hitler and Mussolini? Somehow that doesn't sound like God. Jesus did dies for them just as well as you and I. They just didn't except it. They choose poorly. You do know it's not God's will that any should perish, but that all come to repentance?
We do not have to like the unlikeable, but we are commanded to love the unlovable. Jesus loved us when we were His enemy. The carnal mind is the enemy of God.
I wonder what would happen if we'd (those who have read this thread) banded together for a season of prayer and fasting for MAD? You think God is powerful enough to give him ample opportunity to repent? What if they only way he'd repent is if his power and country where brought to nothing?
Maybe we'd do well to pray for God's Kingdom to come and His will be done on earth.
For the record :
I DO NOT LIKE AH- MAD-INEJAD. I wish every failure to come his way where his plans involve death and destruction.
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And for the record, I didn't say that God didn't love him, but God does support the death penalty and I support what God supports. If the man were to die, my feelings wouldn't be hurt.
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09-25-2007, 10:25 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
And for the record, I didn't say that God didn't love him, but God does support the death penalty and I support what God supports. If the man were to die, my feelings wouldn't be hurt.
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I am going to have to assume that you are speaking of OT edicts given by God...
God also supported stoning those who commit adultery, pick up sticks on the sabbath etc. The same God who gave the edict to stone the adulterer spoke forgiveness when Jesus told the woman caught in the very act of adultery to go and sin no more.
Is this something God would, in any way, condone today?
Do you feel that the death penalties doled out and supported in the OT have any place in the new and better covenant?
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09-25-2007, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
I am going to have to assume that you are speaking of OT edicts given by God...
God also supported stoning those who commit adultery, pick up sticks on the sabbath etc. The same God who gave the edict to stone the adulterer spoke forgiveness when Jesus told the woman caught in the very act of adultery to go and sin no more.
Is this something God would, in any way, condone today?
Do you feel that the death penalties doled out and supported in the OT have any place in the new and better covenant?
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OT edicts? Well, yes read Gen.9:6. I doubt that I am talking about adultery and stoning since this particular passage talks specifically about man taking another mans life. Also, you can take comfort in knowing that this was before the law of Moses. This was not written specifically for the Jews, but for all mankind in its context. The last time I checked, I have yet to hear of a national ruler turning to God after being a murderer.
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09-25-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
OT edicts? Well, yes read Gen.9:6. I doubt that I am talking about adultery and stoning since this particular passage talks specifically about man taking another mans life. Also, you can take comfort in knowing that this was before the law of Moses. This was not written specifically for the Jews, but for all mankind in its context. The last time I checked, I have yet to hear of a national ruler turning to God after being a murderer.
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There was David...
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