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Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yes you can be in the church and not be UPC...my question then is, can't you be in the church and still BE UPC? Why leave? No resolution requires you to have a TV, watch TV or advertise ON TV. Since the UPC is NOT the church, then how can a resolution passing affect you or your local congregation? Aren't we stronger as a whole than we are divided into still smaller groups? There are so many souls to win all over the world and so many missions to support financially. Do you think you will win more souls after leaving?

Why does it matter to you rather I leave or not. I have no hard feelings against the UPC. I got the Holy Ghost in a UPC church my most memorable times with God have been in a UPC church. I simply disagree with where I think the org is going and for that reason I will align myself with other men and churches of the same principles that I believe and that we preach. I don't think that the RES will affect me at all. Our members don't watch TV so they'll never see the ads. I don't think we'll be any weaker becuse of us leaving. We pray a lot of people through so I don't think that's going to change. We support missions through the IAm system and not through Faith Promise so we'll continue to do that. I ask, why then should I stay and support the org?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Why does it matter to you rather I leave or not.

If it bothers you why even attempt to discuss it in a PUBLIC forum. This IS, after all, a public forum and your leaving or staying has become a public topic. So sue me for being opinionated and blunt, but I have made my opinion on this issue known...take it for what it is worth, if you decide to take it at all seeing as how you have said you already made up your mind

I have no hard feelings against the UPC. I got the Holy Ghost in a UPC church my most memorable times with God have been in a UPC church. I simply disagree with where I think the org is going and for that reason I will align myself with other men and churches of the same principles that I believe and that we preach.

My points and questions are still there. You are not addressing them. So you disagree....remember it's just an organization. It's purpose was NOT meant to force us how to think. It was there to unify us in a common theology and to reach the world.

You know the TV thing at one time was NOT part of the org? It was added, just as other issues were added or removed. Video was removed.

The direction of the ORG does not affect YOUR personal direction nor your churches. Only decrees that FORCE you to think or act a certain way, contrary to your own personal views, affect you. So I still don't see why anyone has to leave when no resolution being presented forces you to change in any way.

I can understand people who want to use TV leaving because they ARE being forced to think or act or NOT act a certain way by decree against their own opinion and judgement to NOT use TV to reach out to the lost.

I don't think that the RES will affect me at all. Our members don't watch TV so they'll never see the ads. I don't think we'll be any weaker becuse of us leaving. We pray a lot of people through so I don't think that's going to change. We support missions through the IAm system and not through Faith Promise so we'll continue to do that. I ask, why then should I stay and support the org?

That is my point....why leave if it does not affect you or your church? Why can't we ALL unify to work together to reach the lost instead of quibbling over things that don't even affect us?

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Why does it matter to you rather I leave or not. I have no hard feelings against the UPC. I got the Holy Ghost in a UPC church my most memorable times with God have been in a UPC church. I simply disagree with where I think the org is going and for that reason I will align myself with other men and churches of the same principles that I believe and that we preach. I don't think that the RES will affect me at all. Our members don't watch TV so they'll never see the ads. I don't think we'll be any weaker becuse of us leaving. We pray a lot of people through so I don't think that's going to change. We support missions through the IAm system and not through Faith Promise so we'll continue to do that. I ask, why then should I stay and support the org?

THE ADS ARE NOT FOR CHURCH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody...anybody......HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:so s

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Strongminded

THE ADS ARE NOT FOR CHURCH PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!

Somebody...anybody......HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:so s

Just further evidence of the misunderstanding this resolution has.