In some strange way, I am now thinking that for the BOTH to pass, a completely different set of constitutents voted in the 'affirmative' for each.
If the 'speculation' pertaining to a conservative exodus materializes, its seems like those who remain may be left with a vehicle that they really do not support.
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Will UPC licensed preachers be able to be put under suspicion?
D, a guy t hat is in, can be brought up on charges. that has always been the case. for those that are in, this isnt a change, except that now there is another "charge" that can be added to the list. fellowshipping someone the district has decided is a bad guy.
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In some strange way, I am now thinking that for the BOTH to pass, a completely different set of constitutents voted in the 'affirmative' for each.
If the 'speculation' pertaining to a conservative exodus materializes, its seems like those who remain may be left with a vehicle that they really do not support.
Great insight...perhaps that was the end game all along.
If you can't beat them, join them, infect them, divide them, destroy from within them.
Look, if the Cons leave, then the Mods will rule the day. if the Mods dont like res 3 it can be repealed pretty easily. I suspect this is what will happen....
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Look, if the Cons leave, then the Mods will rule the day. if the Mods dont like res 3 it can be repealed pretty easily. I suspect this is what will happen....
I agree! I see the UPCI as reaching a turning point today! The balance went from exclusive to inclusive. I believe future resolutions will lean towards tollerance and unity in spite of differences!
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Look, if the Cons leave, then the Mods will rule the day. if the Mods dont like res 3 it can be repealed pretty easily. I suspect this is what will happen....
...just maybe not before it sows discord among those which are alive and remain.
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I agree! I see the UPCI as reaching a turning point today! The balance went from exclusive to inclusive. I believe future resolutions will lean towards tollerance and unity in spite of differences!
I do not believe that is possible as an organization. It would have to redefine itself as a fellowship network in the manner that some say the NCO is attempting to define itself as.
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I was very disappointed to see this resolution pass. Leading up to the vote, I had spoken with a few ministers and asked what the general consensus of this resolution was. The majority of them and others they knew were against this resolution.
It gives too much power to the DB. Lord knows some DB's already have enough problems with politics, personal grudges and ego trips. This resolution only gave them more ammunition to use against good men.
I know a minister personally who I know will be brought under question because of the political makeup of the DB where he lives. Even recently he was still preaching in a UPC church here. But with the passage of this resolution, both he and the pastor of that church will likely be the target of the DB.
Others have mentioned Suber and others from the NCO being targeted along with anyone who joins the NCO.
If anyone was there, were there any amendments given and passed that would better limit the broad powers of this resolution? Also, could someone post the verbage of the resolution?
This resolution could take more lives, spiritually, than the television resolution.
a guy that is out or goes out or (debatable) was never in, who is "under suspesion" cannot be fellowshipped by any UPCI preacher. you cant preach the guy, you cant preach for the guy. the only exception is funerals and weddings.
LOL! aint it funny that the "regular folks" often dont care what the org thinks about a particular guy.
Papal decrees like that sound petty and childish....sounds like something you'd hear on the playground stemming from jealousy. This all started with the AS. You are never going to protect an org by clamping down on everyone
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