Disaffiliation with the UPC????

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Why then is your Pastor still liscensed with the UPC?? It makes no sense...

im not sure.but this is the first year that we didnt do anything upc.last year we went to wd campmeeting

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

im not sure.but this is the first year that we didnt do anything upc.last year we went to wd campmeeting

How do you feel about it?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by revrandy

If the Pastor decides to disaffilliate his Church from the UPC but does not discuss UPC issues as to why he is disaffilliating is he being honest or dishonest?

It takes either a Board Meeting or General Meeting doesn't it to vote for disaffilliation should he discuss with those the reasons he is disaffilliating?

imo...if the church is UPC they have a right to know why he believes they should disaffilliate...especially if he is not the founding pastor but voted in..

what say ye??

You seem to imply that the pastor has some responsibility and accountability toward the people he pastors. You are commendable for being a minister with such views. However, I think most of the folks in question view their local church as a personal fiefdom where their will and authority goes unchallenged.

They determine where the offerings go, even if the people have designated something else as their intent. The authoritarian pastor determines the style of music and worship and demands that everyone follow in lock step. When the pastor is in a good mood everyone is in revival. When the pastor is down, everyone travails.

If the pastor is diabetic or bipolar then folks had better be ready for a real roller coaster ride. Whatever the feelings of the pastor (and those family members who have learned how to manipulate him) are then that's what the church is going to be. Since these folks have convinced themselves that God talks to them through their feelings you had better be ready with the coffee, chocolate and pasta.

Whatever it takes to keep the pastor's mood swings on the up tick. As time goes on and he ages, his cravings may become even more carnal - but by then it may be too late for some people to dismount the beast they've been riding.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by revrandy

How do you feel about it?

i love it. im the youth pastor in our church and a lot of the section or distric church services they have i wouldnt want to take my youth anyways. i will back my pastor in the decesion he makes regarding the upc.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

i love it. im the youth pastor in our church and a lot of the section or distric church services they have i wouldnt want to take my youth anyways. i will back my pastor in the decesion he makes regarding the upc.

Why not take the youth to the district services? Is there something wrong with the way they are conducted?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Why not take the youth to the district services? Is there something wrong with the way they are conducted?

yes! we almost took them to youth convention one of the nights since it was one of are friends last year involved but we didnt and were glad because of how one of the churches conducted themselfs

[RevDWW]

Wouldn't all this hinge on the local Church's By-laws?

Most church's do have by-laws don't they? And a board of elders?

Unless the church was bought and paid for by the Pastor it's not his to do with as he pleases is it?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Wouldn't all this hinge on the local Church's By-laws?

Most church's do have by-laws don't they? And a board of elders?

Unless the church was bought and paid for by the Pastor it's not his to do with as he pleases is it?

its his license not the churches

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

yes! we almost took them to youth convention one of the nights since it was one of are friends last year involved but we didnt and were glad because of how one of the churches conducted themselfs

do you think that is protection or insecurity?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

yes! we almost took them to youth convention one of the nights since it was one of are friends last year involved but we didnt and were glad because of how one of the churches conducted themselfs

What happened? I find it hard to believe that "a church" conducted themselves badly. Of course I know I may be setting myself up here, but what did they do? What could they possibly have done to be disruptive of a district youth conference?