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10-16-2007, 12:55 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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Disaffiliation with the UPC????
If the Pastor decides to disaffilliate his Church from the UPC but does not discuss UPC issues as to why he is disaffilliating is he being honest or dishonest?
It takes either a Board Meeting or General Meeting doesn't it to vote for disaffilliation should he discuss with those the reasons he is disaffilliating?
imo...if the church is UPC they have a right to know why he believes they should disaffilliate...especially if he is not the founding pastor but voted in..
what say ye??
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10-16-2007, 01:03 PM
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Da Evangelist
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I say you are right.
If a pastor wants to disaffilliate then he should have a meeting with his people and explain why. He should be willing to answer any questions they may have. If the church don't want to disaffilliate then he puts himself between a rock and a hard place but at least the church gets to make the choice based on what they want.
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10-16-2007, 01:21 PM
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Sister Alvear
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I agree all things should be honestly done...
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10-16-2007, 01:23 PM
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Da Evangelist
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If the pastor presents all his feelings and says that he wants to disaffilliate with the UPCI and the church feels the same then I would support him. The bottom line is that if it is all done honestly then let them do what they feel they need to do.
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10-16-2007, 01:27 PM
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If I understand this correctly if a affliatied church wants to disaffliate ,it has to be voted by the membership of the local church , so a pastor would need to explain to the church why he feels the need to disaffliate.
See one can disaffliate the church ,and lapse on the budget fees and still have a church to pastor.
If a man turns in his card,and the church is affliated He is out of a pastorate.
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10-16-2007, 01:32 PM
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Da Evangelist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
If I understand this correctly if a affliatied church wants to disaffliate ,it has to be voted by the membership of the local church , so a pastor would need to explain to the church why he feels the need to disaffliate.
See one can disaffliate the church ,and lapse on the budget fees and still have a church to pastor.
If a man turns in his card,and the church is affliated He is out of a pastorate.
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You are right.
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10-16-2007, 01:37 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Again if this is done honestly ,and the Pastor has the mind of Christ ,hey more power to him.
I know of a UPCI Pastor who started a church in a town ,and explained what the difference between affliation and non-affliation and let the people vote ,they voted not to affliate. The Pastor has been in that town 28 yrs. and the church has never affliated.
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10-16-2007, 01:50 PM
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His Eminance, High Potatohead Potatotate
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I would think the more info the more honest the man is...I do believe people have a right to know especially if they finacially support the church...
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10-16-2007, 02:21 PM
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Sister Alvear
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When people ask me why I am not this or that....well your kin folks are this or that...I just tell them we have never felt to belong and we are building up a national work in Brazil. I would not use the term I left because I am more holy or they are more holy or however we define holy.
We have to know the DIVINE will of God for our lives and those we work with.
With that in mind we decide destiny for souls under our care that includes all of us who are leaders have people that are following us.
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10-16-2007, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy
If the Pastor decides to disaffilliate his Church from the UPC but does not discuss UPC issues as to why he is disaffilliating is he being honest or dishonest?
It takes either a Board Meeting or General Meeting doesn't it to vote for disaffilliation should he discuss with those the reasons he is disaffilliating?
imo...if the church is UPC they have a right to know why he believes they should disaffilliate...especially if he is not the founding pastor but voted in..
what say ye??
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Churches should have unbiased, objective boards rather than allow one man that much control. He should at least consider the opinions of the church membership
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