No it does not necessarily do that. YOU do that. That is YOUR own volition. It is not the logical conclusion that if one thing is wrong ALL other things should be suspect.
I also think it is faulty to have to wait until someone decides one thing could be wrong before examining if the rest are wrong. We should all always be examining what we believe all the time, not just Oneness Pentecostals that left standards
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
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The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
Did that. Got it "wrong". (According to Apostolics.)
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I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
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The thing is is that from the very get go you should be searching out scripture for yourself no relying on what man alone is saying. My previous pastor always would preach and tell you to study it/the scriptures for yourself and not just go off of what he said. I'm very up front with people on what is salvational and what isn't.
Yes, you should be. But you know what happens, when you are new to the whole religion thing? You trust the people who are teaching you, because you see that the are right about some things, like God being real, and the Holy Ghost.
And so, when they tell you, this verse right here, means such-n-such, you believe them, because they have been right so far. Plus, they know so much about God and the Bible, that when they give you a Bible study, and show you many verses AND tell you exactly what those verses mean, you begin to develop a filter. From the very beginning you have been taught that a certain verse means a certain thing, it becomes very difficult to ever see it a different way.
Which is probably why Trinitarians and oneness people use the same verses to prove 2 opposite things.
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
Sherri, you are so right here. I can tell you that this is what I have had to do with the ground falling out from under me. I searched the scripture the whole time but chose to see the scriptures through the glasses of my what someone is telling me.
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Sherri, you are so right here. I can tell you that this is what I have had to do with the ground falling out from under me. I searched the scripture the whole time but chose to see the scriptures through the glasses of my what someone is telling me.
I too agree with Sherri here. There are so many thinks that are woven together and "fit" to form a whole view. When one doctrine is proven wrong you begin trying to fit everything that's left, and whatever that's new, into a coherent framework.
That's one nice thing about being challenged and accepting the challenge. It can open up doors that you never even knew existed.
I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
I didn't say anything about her reaction being typical or not. I was speaking of logical conclusions. Also we are not talking about the WHOLE doctrinal foundation crumbling. And I also never said anything about NOT going to scriptures to search things out. You really REALLY misunderstood what I posted
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I don't know, Prax. I tend to think that Mich's reaction is a pretty typical one. When your whole doctrinal foundation starts to crumble, you have to go back to Scripture for yourself and search out EVERYTHING to find out what is truth.
Sherri,
If this were my reaction to errors among men I assure you that I would be an atheist or at best an agnostic deist. I can find human reasons to question the very existence of God and what Mich is describing is the application of human reasoning to a spiritual experience. I have had my belief in men shaken by THEIR error but my faith in God is not tied to the error or accurateness of men; neither should anyone's faith be so connected.
When we first find God at an alter, our entire church view is shaped by those that surround us. Any change of heart that we have is still seen through that original church view.
This is kind of like a baby that is born in Iran and grows to hate the USA. Any amount of reasoning with this person is usually to no avail. His world view can't be altered.
When one realizes part of his church view could be in error, he naturally will question the rest of his church view.
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