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Old 10-28-2007, 07:45 PM
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Mary was NOT a incubator but a MOTHER. She CONCIEVED and BARE a Son then she BIRTHED Him.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:04 PM
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Mary was NOT a incubator but a MOTHER. She CONCIEVED and BARE a Son then she BIRTHED Him.
Incubator sounds like Mary didn't contribute anything to the conception except a womb to house a 'Holy Thing'. Mary's egg was used in the conception.

I wonder if Jesus looked like his mother?
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:15 PM
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Incubator sounds like Mary didn't contribute anything to the conception except a womb to house a 'Holy Thing'. Mary's egg was used in the conception.

I wonder if Jesus looked like his mother?
I am 100% certain that a modern DNA test would have shown that Mary and Jesus were related. There is no "divine flesh" here -other then from the Fathers side.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:18 PM
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I am 100% certain that a modern DNA test would have shown that Mary and Jesus were related. There is no "divine flesh" here -other then from the Fathers side.
A paternity test would show that Joseph was not the father as well.
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:28 PM
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I wonder if Jesus looked like his mother?
I don't know but He was the image of His Father
2 Cor 4:4 "image (Greek eikon) of the invisible God"
Col 1:15 "image (Greek eikon) of the unseen God"
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:34 PM
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I don't know but He was the image of His Father
2 Cor 4:4 "image (Greek eikon) of the invisible God"
Col 1:15 "image (Greek eikon) of the unseen God"
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Old 10-28-2007, 08:44 PM
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Mary was NOT a incubator but a MOTHER. She CONCIEVED and BARE a Son then she BIRTHED Him.
Well, that is the way we Protestants treat Mary. As if she was just a temporary tarmac for the Christchild to land on.

Do you believe she made a difference in His ministry? Did she help shape Him?

What about Luke 2:52?

How did He mature, grow, increase, if He had all power?

Did she help Him socially?
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Well, that is the way we Protestants treat Mary. As if she was just a temporary tarmac for the Christchild to land on.

Do you believe she made a difference in His ministry? Did she help shape Him?

What about Luke 2:52?

How did He mature, grow, increase, if He had all power?

Did she help Him socially?
Yes, by all means I believe she had a hand in development of the Christ, but only from a human perspective. Jesus was born into a Jewish family therefore He would be raised from a Jewish tradition. Leaving Joseph out of the picture as the thread is about Mary, she would have to train him somewhat. Jesus didn't wean Himself, He didn't change His diaper, etc. The Bible says He grew in wisdom and favor with God and with men. But your main questions ask is Mary anymore important than the traditional Protestant viewpoint. I respectively say no, only as a special vessel who God favored to bear Jesus, who was NOT born Immaculate as the RCC says.
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But your main questions ask is Mary anymore important than the traditional Protestant viewpoint. I respectively say no, only as a special vessel who God favored to bear Jesus, who was NOT born Immaculate as the RCC says.
Could a sinful human woman conceive a holy child? Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh?
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Could a sinful human woman conceive a holy child? Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh?
Yes, and she did.
(Well, not really since to say "conceive a hold child" would seam to stipulate that her body had something to do with the fertilization process. It provides a place for fertilization, but that is it. She DID provide at least half of Jesus's DNA though.)
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