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11-01-2007, 11:21 AM
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Does anyone know the exact year this was published? (or at least an approximate date). And. could it be possible to post the entire booket? Interesting reading!
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11-01-2007, 12:20 PM
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Does anyone know the exact year this was published? (or at least an approximate date). And. could it be possible to post the entire booket? Interesting reading!
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I echo this sentiment ... it would be interesting to read the constitution in it's entirety.
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11-01-2007, 12:34 PM
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Fudge on the PCI constitution
From Christianity Without the Cross, Thomas Fudge, page 148
“ … one factor acknowledged by all that the PCI was by far better organized of the two merging bodies. Therefore, it made sense not only to adopt certain doctrinal positions but also much of their polity and discipline as well. On the article, ‘pertaining to repentance and conversion’, 3 of the 4 statements therein can be traced to the PCI. The statement on ‘water baptism’ is also PCI in origin. On the “baptism of the Holy Spirit”, all 9 statements in these articles are derived from the PCI. Three of four statements likewise come from the PCI, with the fourth statement previously alluded added in 1954. All of this means that of the 18 statements in these [original] articles, 16 are PCI in origin, one from the PAJC, and one was added after the merger.”
Footnote: David Bernard has done his denomination a great service by tracing out the origin and development of the “Articles of Faith”. While I do not always agree with the conclusions he draws, his work on this aspect of Oneness Pentecostal history is to be commended. See his Understanding the Articles of Faith, 26-39. In the terms of the entire Articles of Faith it can be shown that 75% of the statements come from the PCI. Of the 73 separate identical clauses the breakdown of origins is – PCI: 55, PAJC:5, New/Other: 13. It is worth pointing out that many of the clausal statements are effectively citations of the Biblical texts and are not to be understood as 20th century theological statements.
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11-01-2007, 02:14 PM
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Does anyone know the exact year this was published? (or at least an approximate date). And. could it be possible to post the entire booket? Interesting reading!
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I will do my best to post a complete copy on the Forum as soon as I can get it all together. In the meantime I'm posting something from A.D. Urshan that I think will provide some interesting discussion.
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11-01-2007, 02:18 PM
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I will do my best to post a complete copy on the Forum as soon as I can get it all together. In the meantime I'm posting something from A.D. Urshan that I think will provide some interesting discussion.
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I have a nice treasure inherited from my Great Grand Pappy, orginal AD Urshan Books published by Gospel Publishing House (AOG) his life story and his Sermon/Prayer book, dated 1914. Even the Oneness Historical Society at the WEC doesn't have these.
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11-01-2007, 02:18 PM
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I will do my best to post a complete copy on the Forum as soon as I can get it all together. In the meantime I'm posting something from A.D. Urshan that I think will provide some interesting discussion.
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I think I know what you are going to share and if I am correct you are right, they are very good.
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11-01-2007, 08:56 PM
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I will do my best to post a complete copy on the Forum as soon as I can get it all together. In the meantime I'm posting something from A.D. Urshan that I think will provide some interesting discussion.
Raven
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Thank you, Raven. This is very interesting, I'm surprised that there was not more PCI influence in my area being that they were HQ in Dallas? I do remember the Winsett song books.
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11-01-2007, 10:32 PM
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Thank you, Raven. This is very interesting, I'm surprised that there was not more PCI influence in my area being that they were HQ in Dallas? I do remember the Winsett song books.
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Crackerjack,
Good grief! Just how old are you?
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11-01-2007, 11:00 PM
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This is such neat information. Since my background is PAJC , most of this is brand new to me. Even though my parents were saved 70 yrs ago this part of Apostolic history was not known or perhaps not acknowleged.
Thanks to those of you who share.......my pastor as a young child was B.D. Urshan, younger brother of Andrew.
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11-02-2007, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by commonsense
This is such neat information. Since my background is PAJC , most of this is brand new to me. Even though my parents were saved 70 yrs ago this part of Apostolic history was not known or perhaps not acknowleged.
Thanks to those of you who share.......my pastor as a young child was B.D. Urshan, younger brother of Andrew.
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Can you share what ABI taught regarding the friends of the bridegroom doctrine, I believe that's what SG Norris called it.
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