For those who want to know...RULES at my church!

[Amos]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

I would also like to add that the 'narrow source' you refer to include 4 (apparently backslid) posters here. One witness was formly licensed, one should have been licensed, and two regular lay-people. Sounds like a fairly broad spectrum to me.

Narrow in the sense that they are all anti's.

Pretty simple.

If the pastor (and I have no clue who he even is) were here, we might get an interesting perspective from the other side of the coin.

[nahkoe]

Anti what?

Oh, since you haven't read the thread, I'll point out here that I haven't posted anything about any pastor in any church or shared any of my experiences. lol

Edited to add that there's also been no names mentioned, and it's not just one pastor being discussed. In general, it's an attitude and behavior that's being discussed. I think this thread has gone pretty smoothly considering the topic. It sure could have gone bad in a hurry but those posting personal experiences have made pretty sure to keep it personal and keep the *slant* if you will, towards sharing what they felt and saw.

Originally Posted by Amos

Narrow in the sense that they are all anti's.

Pretty simple.

If the pastor (and I have no clue who he even is) were here, we might get an interesting perspective from the other side of the coin.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

Anti what?

Oh, since you haven't read the thread, I'll point out here that I haven't posted anything about any pastor in any church or shared any of my experiences. lol

I was not addressing you.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Amos

I was not addressing you.

Allrighty then. But I was addressing you.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by nahkoe

Allrighty then. But I was addressing you.

Cool.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Amos

Narrow in the sense that they are all anti's.

Pretty simple.

If the pastor (and I have no clue who he even is) were here, we might get an interesting perspective from the other side of the coin.

'Anti' what?

That's why I asked you to go ahead and use your voice to speak for them.

Why would they feel the need to control things so tightly?

[Amos]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

'Anti' what?

That's why I asked you to go ahead and use your voice to speak for them.

Why would they feel the need to control things so tightly?

Mrs......

I realize that it will be very easy for you to take this personally.

I am not defending any particular practice of the pastor in question.

I am just saying that many are judging and making some oretty strong statements about the man based totally on the recollections of those who walked away from the church.

I have lived long enough to know that many times the perspectives of different people looking at the same event can be very different.

We are just getting one side here.

Also, it is a fact that people who "backslide" are very, very inclined to have extremely negative things to say about the church in order to vindicate their own actions.

That is human nature.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Amos

Mrs......

I realize that it will be very easy for you to take this personally.

I am not defending any particular practice of the pastor in question.

I am just saying that many are judging and making some oretty strong statements about the man based totally on the recollections of those who walked away from the church.

I have lived long enough to know that many times the perspectives of different people looking at the same event can be very different.

We are just getting one side here.

Also, it is a fact that people who "backslide" are very, very inclined to have extremely negative things to say about the church in order to vindicate their own actions.

That is human nature.

This is true! Sometimes our recollections can be skewed over time! I'm not saying that the stories in this thread aren't true, but I would be interested to hear the other side of the story. I wonder how they would justify their actions!

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

This is true! Sometimes our recollections can be skewed over time! I'm not saying that the stories in this thread aren't true, but I would be interested to hear the other side of the story. I wonder how they would justify their actions!

Pianoman,

Honestly I am not trying to impugn anyone. I am not questioning the character of any of the recollectors; just wanting to point out that we see things from our own acute angle, and that doesn't always tell the whole story.

This Elder from Oregon has been absolutely dragged through the mud here. I have read some pretty hard statements made against him.

Before we render the verdict, we ought to remember that there are always two sides to every story.

As a pastor, I have been lied on once or twice, and had things twisted completely out of resemblance to the facts often enough to know it can happen.

Wounded spirits can alter perception incredibly. And some wounds are self-inflicted.

Originally Posted by Amos

Pianoman,

Honestly I am not trying to impugn anyone. I am not questioning the character of any of the recollectors; just wanting to point out that we see things from our own acute angle, and that doesn't always tell the whole story.

This Elder from Oregon has been absolutely dragged through the mud here. I have read some pretty hard statements made against him.

Before we render the verdict, we ought to remember that there are always two sides to every story.

As a pastor, I have been lied on once or twice, and had things twisted completely out of resemblance to the facts often enough to know it can happen.

Wounded spirits can alter perception incredibly. And some wounds are self-inflicted.

I belive you called me a backslidder I find that very judgemental about me and you don't know me....I can promise you I have NOT lied and I don't appreciate what you called me or inference that I have not been completely truthful....what happened to us will be burned into our hearts forever...