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Old 12-12-2007, 01:18 PM
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BTW, I really do believe some of these men believe if it ain't comin' outa their chimney, it ain't smoke.

They have learned well from a system that is corrupt to the very core.

There is something inherently wrong with us when lying, deception and all sorts of unethical behavior is deemed okay. That is, it's okay if someone in power does it.

If someone in Podunksville, Arkansas who pastors a small church and gives little to the coffers of the orgs does it, he's probably gonna get the cat-o-nine from his morally superior "elders."
You will get no argument from me on this. I have seen it happen.

So you know, if it turns out it is a lie, I will stand in front of you personally and repent. Time tells all things. I say we give time it's chance before we assume.

Now here is one for you:

What if they don't form an organization?
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:19 PM
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You will get no argument from me on this. I have seen it happen.

So you know, if it turns out it is a lie, I will stand in front of you personally and repent. Time tells all things. I say we give time it's chance before we assume.

Now here is one for you:

What if they don't form an organization?
Does it matter if they ever form it?

There is enough proof that they INTEND to do so.

That is enough to classify them as disengenuous, and I am being very kind.
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Does it matter if they ever form it?

There is enough proof that they INTEND to do so.

That is enough to classify them as disengenuous, and I am being very kind.
If we take an unfinished website as "proof of intent" we may be sorry later.

Look, there is no doubt in my mind that some (I have no idea how many) ministers certainly seem to be leaning towards formation of a new group. Is it the majority? I don't know. Does that mean one will be formed? I don't know. Is worrying about it on an internet forum going to solve anything? This one I KNOW the answer to: No.

Funny. One of the 49 is the man who twisted my arm the hardest to come in to the UPC. Now he might (according to him he is not sure) leave the UPC. Good grief, I have been in less than two years.
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If we take an unfinished website as "proof of intent" we may be sorry later.

Look, there is no doubt in my mind that some (I have no idea how many) ministers certainly seem to be leaning towards formation of a new group. Is it the majority? I don't know. Does that mean one will be formed? I don't know. Is worrying about it on an internet forum going to solve anything? This one I KNOW the answer to: No.

Funny. One of the 49 is the man who twisted my arm the hardest to come in to the UPC. Now he might (according to him he is not sure) leave the UPC. Good grief, I have been in less than two years.
Dude, I am not WORRIED about it. I welcome it.

Thank God for it!

I pray God tears down every man-made organizational stronghold in the Oneness Pentecostal movement so that REAL revival can occur without all the trappings of personality worship.
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