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[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by revrandy

It certainly makes it much more entertaining.....

but it seems to me that Sacramento Rock Church is involved quite a bit doesn't it to you???

Seems like many at the Rock Church carry multiple positions???

Careful, Rev.

Your resentment toward certain folks is coloring your posting.

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Careful, Rev.

Your resentment toward certain folks is coloring your posting.

Coonman, I like ya...I'm even sure that given the chance we would enjoy a cup a joe and a racoon fajita together...but...Randy did spend some time in Nor Cal. And even though I am in the frozen north, I spent many years of my life in the same area...and trust me bro...there is some truth to what he speaks. I know firsthand junk...I would never spread it here. Does it make these men bad in my eyes, no, I can't see past all the junk in my own eye, yet, politics has happened, just accept that...cool? Cool!

Have a Merry Christmas bro, been praying for ya...

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Coonman, I like ya...I'm even sure that given the chance we would enjoy a cup a joe and a racoon fajita together...but...Randy did spend some time in Nor Cal. And even though I am in the frozen north, I spent many years of my life in the same area...and trust me bro...there is some truth to what he speaks. I know firsthand junk...I would never spread it here. Does it make these men bad in my eyes, no, I can't see past all the junk in my own eye, yet, politics has happened, just accept that...cool? Cool!

Have a Merry Christmas bro, been praying for ya...

Monk, I don't doubt what you say in the least. In fact, that is my point--there are no doubt issues on all sides of the equation out there.

That's why I think it is completely disingenuous for one fellow with one perspective to claim the high road, andlabel everybody else unethical, especially with bogus analogies like comparing the UPC's relationship with sovereign churches to a pastor's relationship with saints.

That's so far out in left field that I almost feel silly bothering to refute it.

I am not so naive as to think that every man on that list is 100% pure and pristine in their motives; we are dealing with humanity here.

But don't insult my intelligence by trying to label and broadbrush the whole kit and caboodle with inane anaolgies and cuckoo comparisons.

Western District politics and sibling rivalries are not a story of the black hats vs. the white hats. It's just a wee bit more complex than that, and even those of us out here in flyover country are smart enough to know that.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Monk, I don't doubt what you say in the least. In fact, that is my point--there are no doubt issues on all sides of the equation out there.

That's why I think it is completely disingenuous for one fellow with one perspective to claim the high road, andlabel everybody else unethical, especially with bogus analogies like comparing the UPC's relationship with sovereign churches to a pastor's relationship with saints.

That's so far out in left field that I almost feel silly bothering to refute it.

I am not so naive as to think that every man on that list is 100% pure and pristine in their motives; we are dealing with humanity here.

But don't insult my intelligence by trying to label and broadbrush the whole kit and caboodle with inane anaolgies and cuckoo comparisons.

Western District politics and sibling rivalries are not a story of the black hats vs. the white hats. It's just a wee bit more complex than that, and even those of us out here in flyover country are smart enough to know that.

Coon.... I am just tired of it..it doesn't matter to me one iota what these guys do... I am just sitting in the nose bleed section...but that doesn't diminish my opinion of what's going on...you can comment on folks all you'd like...I never claimed any high road..I just called it like I see it... and made a few snide comments here or there...(which is my nature...sometimes funny...sometimes not ) ....

again my horse will probably never stand as high as yours.... but that's okay...
I can still ride....

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Coon.... I am just tired of it..it doesn't matter to me one iota what these guys do... I am just sitting in the nose bleed section...but that doesn't diminish my opinion of what's going on...you can comment on folks all you'd like...I never claimed any high road..I just called it like I see it... and made a few snide comments here or there...(which is my nature...sometimes funny...sometimes not ) ....

again my horse will probably never stand as high as yours.... but that's okay...
I can still ride....

Your horse? My horse?

Please address the issue that you used to label the Tulsa men unethical--the compariso of the org/pastors with pastors/saints.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Coonman, I like ya...I'm even sure that given the chance we would enjoy a cup a joe and a racoon fajita together...but...Randy did spend some time in Nor Cal. And even though I am in the frozen north, I spent many years of my life in the same area...and trust me bro...there is some truth to what he speaks. I know firsthand junk...I would never spread it here. Does it make these men bad in my eyes, no, I can't see past all the junk in my own eye, yet, politics has happened, just accept that...cool? Cool!

Have a Merry Christmas bro, been praying for ya...

It doesn't make them bad in my eyes either...but unless Coonskinner spends some time there he wouldn't understand...

It's the land of Giants... it is completely different than the plains of Kansas...many folks want to identify with them but unless they have been there, done that...they just won't understand...

But as was stated....we're all just cuckoo...and inane....

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by revrandy

It doesn't make them bad in my eyes either...but unless Coonskinner spends some time there he wouldn't understand...

It's the land of Giants... it is completely different than the plains of Kansas...many folks want to identify with them but unless they have been there, done that...they just won't understand...

But as was stated....we're all just cuckoo...and inane....

No, your analogy was.

Deal with that, please, rather than avoiding the subject.

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

No, your analogy was.

Deal with that, please, rather than avoiding the subject.

CS....Did you ever vote these men in to lead??

and were you voted in as Pastor of Salina or did you pioneer the work??

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by revrandy

CS....Did you ever vote these men in to lead??

and were you voted in as Pastor of Salina or did you pioneer the work??

Where are you going with this, and what in the world do you mean?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by revrandy

CS....Did you ever vote these men in to lead??

and were you voted in as Pastor of Salina or did you pioneer the work??

The point is that pastors are a God ordained office, even though we elect them, which I don't think is the most Scriptural way.

The organization is a purely man-made thing, and the relationship it has with pastors can not be compared with a pastor's relationship with saints.