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12-21-2007, 07:29 PM
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"Dan is going to look through some commentaries and post a very long post", saith me!  |
See the post before this one for my long winded and arduous research!!!!
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12-21-2007, 07:34 PM
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See the post before this one for my long winded and arduous research!!!!
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You're being lazy tonight, Dan. Usually you find something from your buddy, ....his name slips my mind at the moment..?
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12-21-2007, 07:36 PM
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You're being lazy tonight, Dan. Usually you find something from your buddy, ....his name slips my mind at the moment..?
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Nothing lazy tonite, Mizpeh ... as long as our terms are different ... our conclusions will be ... A WASTE OF TIME.
This passage deals w/ forgiveness ... and Aquila has presented some good thoughts ...
Your view on remission is dictating the interpretation of
this scripture as to fit your baptismal regeneration and salvational re-enactment doctrine.
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12-21-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Nothing lazy tonite, Mizpeh ... as long as our terms are different ... our conclusions will be ... A WASTE OF TIME.
This passage deals w/ forgiveness ... and Aquila has presented some good thoughts ...
Your view on remission is dictating the interpretation of
this scripture as to fit your baptismal regeneration and salvational re-enactment doctrine.
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So how did the Apostles have the power to forgive or not forgive someone's sins? That is as Papal as anything.
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
So how did the Apostles have the power to forgive or not forgive someone's sins? That is as Papal as anything.
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The same way you have the power to forgive those who offend and trangress against you Praxeas.
Y'all enjoy the rest of the evening ... I got to go wash ... I mean remit my dirty laundry.
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12-21-2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The same way you have the power to forgive those who offend and trangress against you Praxeas.
Y'all enjoy the rest of the evening ... I got go wash ... I mean remit my dirty laundry.
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that's not at all what the verse is saying Dan and you know it lol
He never mentions being offended.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
The same way you have the power to forgive those who offend and trangress against you Praxeas.
Y'all enjoy the rest of the evening ... I got go wash ... I mean remit my dirty laundry.
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Good night, Dan.
I've got a few things to do as well. 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-21-2007, 07:45 PM
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The question is:
What did Jesus mean in Jn. 20:23, Mt. 16:19?
Since He uses the term remit we as Apostolic just look at the command then the obedience to that command it is simple.
Jesus said .....remission of sins should be preached in His Name BEGINNING at Jerusalem. Luke 25:47
When the man who was given the keys preached remission of sins it was to be performed at baptism. And the passage says "as many as recieved HIS word were baptized."
Thus He remitted their sins in obeying what Jesus told him to preach and to do.
So if we are wrong who misled us if it wasn't Jesus?
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12-21-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
You're being lazy tonight, Dan. Usually you find something from your buddy, ....his name slips my mind at the moment..?
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Eh....John Calvin?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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12-21-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Eh....John Calvin?
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No, that's not his name. I think the guy was a former UPC but is now in an 'orthodox' denomination. Bro Elpey will know his name.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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