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12-31-2007, 10:38 AM
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Dan you are wrong. For remission of sins one MUST be baptized in Jesus name.
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If a person sins again after being baptized...must he be baptized again??
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12-31-2007, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by augustianian
If a person sins again after being baptized...must he be baptized again??
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In PAJC theology this would not be necessary although a valid question, IMO.
Forgiveness is available at repentance ... confession of sin....
while remission ... or wiping away of the "body of sin" can only be effectuated w/ a properly administered baptism.
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12-31-2007, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
In PAJC theology this would not be necessary although a valid question, IMO.
Forgiveness is available at repentance ... confession of sin....
while remission ... or wiping away of the "body of sin" can only be effectuated w/ a properly administered baptism.
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Excellent post!!!
some will rebuke me for the comment , but I have no problem giving credit when its due.
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12-31-2007, 11:34 AM
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Excellent post!!!
some will rebuke me for the comment , but I have no problem giving credit when its due.
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I think he was only reporting what the PAJC position is on the matter... not his personal opinion.
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12-31-2007, 11:37 AM
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I think he was only reporting what the PAJC position is on the matter... not his personal opinion.
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really? darn.
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12-31-2007, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
In PAJC theology this would not be necessary although a valid question, IMO.
Forgiveness is available at repentance ... confession of sin....
while remission ... or wiping away of the "body of sin" can only be effectuated w/ a properly administered baptism.
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The question still remains unanswered.
The point is that at the moment of faith a person is forgiven and his sins are remitted (which is the same thing).
Another question...
What exactly is a sin forgiven that is not remitted??? That makes no sense.
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12-31-2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by augustianian
The question still remains unanswered.
The point is that at the moment of faith a person is forgiven and his sins are remitted (which is the same thing).
Another question...
What exactly is a sin forgiven that is not remitted??? That makes no sense.
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Perhaps not to you, but it makes perfect sense to me and my understanding of the scripture supports it.
You will not change me and I will not change you.
Let's just all move on now.. the traffic is backing up and I don't have time for the foolishness. 
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12-31-2007, 12:07 PM
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Perhaps not to you, but it makes perfect sense to me and my understanding of the scripture supports it.
You will not change me and I will not change you.
Let's just all move on now.. the traffic is backing up and I don't have time for the foolishness. |
If you're comfortable living with certain conclusions that make no sense then Im comfortable letting you.
However, your willingness to live with those conclusions does not answer the dilemma.
But you do not wish to discuss this inconsistency and I respect that...
God bless you,
a
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12-31-2007, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by augustianian
If a person sins again after being baptized...must he be baptized again??
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Another question you may want to ask yourself is does the Holy Spirit leave the unclean vessel who has sinned and does he need to be refilled again?
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12-31-2007, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Another question you may want to ask yourself is does the Holy Spirit leave the unclean vessel who has sinned and does he need to be refilled again?
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That is not a question I would ask myself because it introduces a false assumption, namely that there is such a thing as a "clean" vessel. Besides that....
Where does it say that the Holy Spirit leaves the "unclean" vessel??
I mean...the sick have need of a physician, not the healthy.
a
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