Where are all the Acts 2:38 folks (3-steppers)??

[Brother Price]

I will continue this discussion later. Hold that thought. I have to help Mom. She needs a newer vehicle now that she is starting to come to Church with me. (YES!!!) So, we will continue this later this afternoon or this evening.

But, until then, Bro. Epley, realize that from what you have said, you have made the preacher a co-redeemer of sorts, for God alone does not save. Think about this, brother, and think real hard. Love ya in Christ.

Originally Posted by Brother Price

I will continue this discussion later. Hold that thought. I have to help Mom. She needs a newer vehicle now that she is starting to come to Church with me. (YES!!!) So, we will continue this later this afternoon or this evening.

But, until then, Bro. Epley, realize that from what you have said, you have made the preacher a co-redeemer of sorts, for God alone does not save. Think about this, brother, and think real hard. Love ya in Christ.

Bill,

Congratulations on your Mom's move in faith toward Jesus! Do all you can to assist her.

If what you have hypothesized is proofed then in your position of the penitent, upon repenting, would also be a co-redeemer. This is a fallacious position unless you are going to further travel the path of reformed Calvinist teaching to the place of unqualified predestination and that even in repentance the penitent has no part at all in the process of obedience or salvation... not even assent.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by philjones

Bill,

Congratulations on your Mom's move in faith toward Jesus! Do all you can to assist her.

If what you have hypothesized is proofed then in your position of the penitent, upon repenting, would also be a co-redeemer. This is a fallacious position unless you are going to further travel the path of reformed Calvinist teaching to the place of unqualified predestination and that even in repentance the penitent has no part at all in the process of obedience or salvation... not even assent.

Bro. Jones you hit the nail on the head they cannot have it both ways IF man has to cooperate in ONE point then according to their absurd teaching man is the saviour. To believe is a work Jesus said so. Jn. 6:28-29!
Thus only pure Calvinism will suffice this dilema they are in but I wouldn't be surprized if they didn't move on into this. One false doctrine begats another.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Bro. Jones you hit the nail on the head they cannot have it both ways IF man has to cooperate in ONE point then according to their absurd teaching man is the saviour. To believe is a work Jesus said so. Jn. 6:28-29!
Thus only pure Calvinism will suffice this dilema they are in but I wouldn't be surprized if they didn't move on into this. One false doctrine begats another.

Get your PM?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

I will continue this discussion later. Hold that thought. I have to help Mom. She needs a newer vehicle now that she is starting to come to Church with me. (YES!!!) So, we will continue this later this afternoon or this evening.

But, until then, Bro. Epley, realize that from what you have said, you have made the preacher a co-redeemer of sorts, for God alone does not save. Think about this, brother, and think real hard. Love ya in Christ.

That ia absurd.
How shall they hear without a preacher? Paul said does that make a preacher a co-redeemer?
It was Baptist preached that preached this faith only absurdity did that make him a co-redeemer.
Talk about a strawman.
Listen up all you self led-self made-arm quarterbacks
"It PLEASED God BY the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
1Cor.1:21
He sent out preachers Mt.28:19,Mk.16:15, Luke 24:47.
And did they preach! Just read what they preached in Acts 2:38!!!!
Don't sound like faith only to me!