Once God gives you the promise of the Holy Ghost can you lose it, (Biblically)

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

David had committed two terrible sins' adultery with another man's wife and then had the man killed. He was an adulterer and a murderer too.

How long he tarried as both an adulterer and a murderer, I cannot tell from scripture. But until Nathan appeared before him, bringing attention to his covered sin, the Holy Spirit had not yet departed from him as can be seen in his prayer recorded in Psa 51. Yes, he was unclean. He was unclean BEFORE he commited adultery, looking and lusting coveting his neighbor's wife, and afterwards too.

How long would have the Holy Spirit tarried IN HIM, I cannot tell. But, one of the purposes of the Holy Ghost that abides in us as it did also in the days of old, is, to convict us of sin...not to depart everytime sin is commited. If the Holy Ghost departed everytime that someone sin...I doubt that there would even be a church. Why? By breaking the least of God's commandments, we are taught that we have broken all of them. In other words, we become guilty of the whole.

Therefore, a LIFE of repentance is required.

Are you saying that your scriptures and my scriptures contradict each other?

We both know that that's impossible. John 7:39 clearly shows that the OT prophets we're not infilled with the Holy Ghost, at least not in the same way as it is given today.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by big-larry

Are you saying that your scriptures and my scriptures contradict each other?

We both know that that's impossible. John 7:39 clearly shows that the OT prophets we're not infilled with the Holy Ghost, at least not in the same way as it is given today.

From the Garden of Eden, we see God's presence will not be found in the presence of sin. What changed in the New Covenant was not doing away with Old, but instead of overshadowing, it was infilling.

David did not want God to flee from him for his sin. Same as a child of God should not toy with thinking the Holy Ghost will always be there if they sin. God does not inhabit an unclean temple.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

From the Garden of Eden, we see God's presence will not be found in the presence of sin. What changed in the New Covenant was not doing away with Old, but instead of overshadowing, it was infilling.

David did not want God to flee from him for his sin. Same as a child of God should not toy with thinking the Holy Ghost will always be there if they sin. God does not inhabit an unclean temple.

The Law was based on man's peformance. Therefore if a man had been able to perform it, then man would get the glory. (e.i."all these have I kept for my youth up", and " Lord, I thank thee that I am not like other men".)

Jesus fullfilled the law by living perfect and upright under the law. Then He abolished the law when He died and resurrected. Eph 2:15;Rom 10:4 " For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Most Christians are still trying to live under a performance based law to obtain salvation. The law is gone, get over into the letters written to the Church (epistles).

The first eight chapters of Romans tells us more about how to live than all the OT and the four Gospels combined.

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by big-larry

Are you saying that your scriptures and my scriptures contradict each other?

We both know that that's impossible. John 7:39 clearly shows that the OT prophets we're not infilled with the Holy Ghost, at least not in the same way as it is given today.

No contradiction in the Scriptures, brother...

Peter said that the Spirit of Christ was in THEM...the prophets. The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Ghost.

But, your scripture that you are using to offset the words of Peter seems to be misunderstood.

The Holy Ghost was NOT yet given, except in a few cases as you already noted. However, it had been 400 years since there was a prophet in the land. So, the Word is true...there was no Holy Ghost yet. It was not yet given. 400 years...imagine THAT! 400 years. That would be like us looking back here in America to the days right BEFORE the Pilgrims came to America. If we had not heard from God since BEFORE the Pilgrims here in America, we would ALSO say that the Holy Ghost is NOT yet given to us. But, our perspective sometimes skew the meaning of the Word...in my opinion.

But, we know that the Prophets had the Holy Ghost. The scriptures do not lie.

400 years. That's a awful long time.