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01-27-2008, 09:47 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Oh, ok.
Well, you mentioned trying the spirits, and I was just wondering how you "tried the spirit" if you weren't even there? Thought maybe you were there and heard some things that didn't line up with scripture, or felt a strange spirit during the worship, etc.
Are you making the huge leap that since they won't allow video cameras that God must not be there?
If so, I'd really like some justification on that one.........the scripture you've provided so far is pretty thin........
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Video cameras? Here we go with video cameras again. I never mentioned video cameras. I would not neccessily want video cameras in my meetings either. There are too many squirrelous or squirrelly people there that would become instant movie actors. The camera has such a way with the squirrely.  Ever seen 'em before? You say, "lights," watch 'em tense up. Say "camera," then you can see them clear their throats and get ready. Now say, "Action," man....you've never seen such acting. So no, I did not say "video camera." Too many are not able to handle it.
The scripture that I provided may be thin for some, but it is anvil hard and resolutely sound for me. If I have to go digging in the hole of the wall to find out what is going on behind there, where the spiritual light of day is not shining, I am afraid of which way the ancients are turned and what God they truly worship and what light they are looking to.
Beware of that which seeks to be hid except that they have control of it.
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01-27-2008, 10:02 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
Video cameras? Here we go with video cameras again. I never mentioned video cameras. I would not neccessily want video cameras in my meetings either. There are too many squirrelous or squirrelly people there that would become instant movie actors. The camera has such a way with the squirrely.  Ever seen 'em before? You say, "lights," watch 'em tense up. Say "camera," then you can see them clear their throats and get ready. Now say, "Action," man....you've never seen such acting. So no, I did not say "video camera." Too many are not able to handle it.
The scripture that I provided may be thin for some, but it is anvil hard and resolutely sound for me. If I have to go digging in the hole of the wall to find out what is going on behind there, where the spiritual light of day is not shining, I am afraid of which way the ancients are turned and what God they truly worship and what light they are looking to.
Beware of that which seeks to be hid except that they have control of it.
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Lol, ok, I give up.
Let me summarize, and correct me if I'm wrong.
*You did not go to Tulsa.
*You are basing your assumption that God is not there on the fact that they didn't allow filming of any type, camera, digital device, cell phone, etc.
*From that, you likened them to hiding behind a wall, and you are having to look thru the hole in the wall, presumably because there's no video for you to watch.
*So, you use an "Anvil hard" scripture to make the ludicrous claim that "God is not there".
So, my interpretation of your argument is, "Since they will not allow anyone to record their services, they are like the evil children of Israel that worship idols behind walls, and henceforth God is not there"
Did I misinterpret anything?
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01-27-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
The danger in arguing with an idiot is that bystanders lose track of which one is which.
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01-27-2008, 11:05 AM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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The danger in arguing with an idiot is that bystanders lose track of which one is which.
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Hahahahaha, excellent point, OP.
Since I'm not sure which of us you're referring to, I'll abstain from further discussion!
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01-27-2008, 12:09 PM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by OP_Carl
The danger in arguing with an idiot is that bystanders lose track of which one is which.
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yep, preach it.
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01-27-2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Lol, ok, I give up.
Let me summarize, and correct me if I'm wrong.
*You did not go to Tulsa.
*You are basing your assumption that God is not there on the fact that they didn't allow filming of any type, camera, digital device, cell phone, etc.
*From that, you likened them to hiding behind a wall, and you are having to look thru the hole in the wall, presumably because there's no video for you to watch.
*So, you use an "Anvil hard" scripture to make the ludicrous claim that "God is not there".
So, my interpretation of your argument is, "Since they will not allow anyone to record their services, they are like the evil children of Israel that worship idols behind walls, and henceforth God is not there"
Did I misinterpret anything?
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Keep working at it. You are about 60 percent there. Hahaha...
How can God be there? You and I were not? Hear say is not admissible in the court of law. You know how people misrepresent the truth. "No pot is as black as our pot."
You were probably home watching t.v.,  and I was probably on this dumb computer wondering why the guys in white are looking for me with a straight-jacket while I am trying to make sense of all this confusion.
Anyway, so I over stepped the bounds of sanity a half inch, tomorrow is another day. Who knows, I may have been right after all. The wife  says that I over step by a country mile some time.
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01-27-2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
Keep working at it. You are about 60 percent there. Hahaha...
How can God be there? You and I were not? Hear say is not admissible in the court of law. You know how people misrepresent the truth. "No pot is as black as our pot."
You were probably home watching t.v.,  and I was probably on this dumb computer wondering why the guys in white are looking for me with a straight-jacket while I am trying to make sense of all this confusion.
Anyway, so I over stepped the bounds of sanity a half inch, tomorrow is another day. Who knows, I may have been right after all. The wife  says that I over step by a country mile some time.
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Alright, fair enough, lol.
I can accept this line of reasoning, and I"m sure we'll live to scrap another day!
For now, a truce, my half-crazy friend!
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01-27-2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Alright, fair enough, lol.
I can accept this line of reasoning, and I"m sure we'll live to scrap another day!
For now, a truce, my half-crazy friend! 
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Only half crazy.
I'm losing my sterling reputation.
Now go back to your regularly scheduled
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