Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

If you are speaking of the Tulsa 6 there is NOT a chance that it is about conviction. It is absolutely 100% about control and men having power.

Step right up and speak into the microphone, brother. I'll tell the sound man to turn up the house speakers.

Now, say it again slowly so that those who fogot what control is all about will thoroughly understand it. You might even use the word "witchcraft" in association with the word, but I'm sure that most of those who had a piano fall on their heads would never get or understand the connection. They might would do well to study "will worship."

Where's my thumbsup sign?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

If you are speaking of the Tulsa 6 there is NOT a chance that it is about conviction. It is absolutely 100% about control and men having power.

I have been against this idea of a new org from jump, but quite firmly disagree with this post.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I don't doubt that, WH, my question is "Why now"?

I mean, it's obvious that these men have been concerned about the direction the UPC has taken, why did they choose to leave now? Over the advertising on TV issue, when it's obvious that many in the UPC have been advertising or broadcasting on TV for quite a while?

That's what I'm screamin', Michael...why now?!

[Whole Hearted]

Why not now?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Why not now?

Because the claim is that Rev 4 was not the issue, just the straw.

Had they left before GC or waited for a time, IMHO, it would have been a better move.

Bishop W is one of the finest men of God I know, but has been talking about leaving since he was 26 years old...why choose this point and time to leave?!

But then again, the Tulsa 6 did not check with me and it's their move...God bless their hearts.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Barb

Because the claim is that Rev 4 was not the issue, just the straw.

Had they left before GC or waited for a time, IMHO, it would have been a better move.

Bishop W is one of the finest men of God I know, but has been talking about leaving since he was 26 years old...why choose this point and time to leave?!

But then again, the Tulsa 6 did not check with me and it's their move...God bless their hearts.

I agree it was just the straw, but I think it is the right time.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I want to address this, because the accusation of these men being control hungry keeps coming up.

From my understanding of reading on this, the formation of this org is set up as such that there are "term limits" on the leadership. Of the Executive Committee, every year, one of the originals will be removed by lot every year, and cannot hold a position for at least one year. This assures that there will be no "Original 6" keeping control in the org.

So tell me, If this is all about control and position, why would the Original 6 create bylaws that will in effect take them out of the leadership position after so long?

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

That is a good question.

I have wondered the same thing, but really, it wouldn't matter what these men did, they are still the root of all evil to a certain element.

It's funny to me how the UPC can be the great Satan around here until the WWPF comes along, and now all of a sudden they want to defend the old Mothership like they wish they'd never left.

Excuse me, but could you brethren PULEEEZE stop with the sensibility.





[Others may carry on with the bashing]

[Apprehended]

Why now?

DRAMA!

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Apprehended

Keep working at it. You are about 60 percent there. Hahaha...

How can God be there? You and I were not? Hear say is not admissible in the court of law. You know how people misrepresent the truth. "No pot is as black as our pot."

You were probably home watching t.v., and I was probably on this dumb computer wondering why the guys in white are looking for me with a straight-jacket while I am trying to make sense of all this confusion.

Anyway, so I over stepped the bounds of sanity a half inch, tomorrow is another day. Who knows, I may have been right after all. The wife says that I over step by a country mile some time.

Alright, fair enough, lol.

I can accept this line of reasoning, and I"m sure we'll live to scrap another day!

For now, a truce, my half-crazy friend!

[Apprehended]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Excuse me, but could you brethren PULEEEZE stop with the sensibility.

Right.

All this emotional stimuli is overwhelming. Haha...