Pastor forced to leave by cops @Tulsa Meeting - Page 13

OP_Carl · #**121** 01-28-2008, 10:13 AM

What a wordy and tedious response!

Apprehended · #**122** 01-28-2008, 10:15 AM

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What a gasbag!

You are so kindly and affection. Your endearing way has made you a real PRIZE.

pelathais · #**123** 01-28-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OP_Carl

What a wordy and tedious response!

Hey OP_Carl, thanks for the "Ammendment" to that post. Your graciousness is an example to all of us who would otherwise be brawling about on this board.

In the "great spirit" of OP_Carl's action in "taking the high road" I too will attempt to restrain my name-calling and use adjectives instead of nouns.

CC1 · #**124** 01-28-2008, 10:53 AM

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You totally disagree?

Then, if you TOTALLY disagree, just how thin can a group split hairs and still be right with their convictions? Just how thin indeed?

Based on convictions alone, shall we burst apart, form separate denominations, organizations, votiing caucuses based on each and every lil' ol' conviction that might loom so greatly in a little mind while it is only hardly worth a mention in a larger mind?

Are convictions right and holy if a break up occurs over wine vs. juice? How about a huge break up over Trib vs. Post Trib.? Just how small can a mind get before these issues become stumbling blocks over which fellowship is no longer acceptable?

If the principles of being in one mind and in one accord in regard to the basics of the gospel that Jesus gave us, is not the ruling CONVICTION, these other so called convictions ARE NOT convictions AT ALL. They are issues of CONTROL at worst, or the product of a deceived heart based on illusions of grandeur and personal importance at best. When one is so deceived as to believe that "I alone know what is best for God's people," their estimation of themselves ranks equal to God. They have forgotten the way of humble service and submission.

On a former post, I got a little radical...which is not hard to do when such issues are presented as grave as the break of fellowship over such STUPID considerations. Truly God is EVERYWHERE, even as David said, though he descended to the lowest hell, he is there also. I should not have made the statement that "God was not there," technically speaking. However, I will say that God is NOT PLEASED.

David got a little radical when he said that all men are liars.

I might not get that radical but like two fishermen were talking when one said to another, "All men are liars except you and I...sometimes I wonder about you." Doubts whether or not God is in CONTROL, distrust sewn among bretheren, discord as a result of a vote, passion generated by letter writing, separation from bretheren and collapse of the house of peace is a sure indication that the racket heard is a fox in the hen house.

Darkness is of both mind and spirit. It takes darkness to hide the stealthiness of the working of the enenmy. Yes, God was there but the heat felt was not the heat from heavenly light. There is another source of heat.

Give it a few years and we might see new org.'s develop over long sleeves vs. 3/4 length sleeves, open toed shoes vs closed, long uncut hair worn up vs. long uncut hair worn down, etc, etc!!!

TrmptPraise · #**125** 01-28-2008, 11:11 AM

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Give it a few years and we might see new org.'s develop over long sleeves vs. 3/4 length sleeves, open toed shoes vs closed, long uncut hair worn up vs. long uncut hair worn down, etc, etc!!!

Unfortunately, you may not be far from the truth. Men's desire to form fellowships or organizations for a preferred Apostolic direction, may find that direction does not further the gospel any more than the organization it comes out of. I truly believe the introduction of different "yard sticks" are going to further demonstrate our inability to reach our true purpose and mission.

Apprehended · #**126** 01-28-2008, 11:20 AM

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Give it a few years and we might see new org.'s develop over long sleeves vs. 3/4 length sleeves, open toed shoes vs closed, long uncut hair worn up vs. long uncut hair worn down, etc, etc!!!

That's right.

That is why that I've concluded that it is not a matter of conviction so much as it is a matter of some men determined to have THEIR OWN WAY...read "control." In affect, they are saying, "If I can't have my way swimming around in a big pond, I will have my own way swimming around in a small pond...my own pond."

Just how FINELY can a hair be split, since there are some that want to split hairs? I just hope it never gets to the point that Pastor has to check to see if the women are wearing tongs...or whatever those skimpy things are. Can you image...A non tong wearing organization? Non vs. tong wearing?

mama bear · #**127** 01-28-2008, 11:20 AM

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Because the claim is that Rev 4 was not the issue, just the straw.

Had they left before GC or waited for a time, IMHO, it would have been a better move.

Bishop W is one of the finest men of God I know, but has been talking about leaving since he was 26 years old...why choose this point and time to leave?!

But then again, the Tulsa 6 did not check with me and it's their move...God bless their hearts.

Sorry to interrupt, but are you saying Revelation chapter 4 or Resolution 4?

IAintMovin · #**128** 01-28-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I always made A in school except for one subject, you can guess which one that was.

P.E. ??????..............

Apprehended · #**129** 01-28-2008, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TrmptPraise

Unfortunately, you may not be far from the truth. Men's desire to form fellowships or organizations for a preferred Apostolic direction, may find that direction does not further the gospel any more than the organization it comes out of. I truly believe the introduction of different "yard sticks" are going to further demonstrate our inability to reach our true purpose and mission.

I believe it.

Until we are able to divest ourselves of so many personal interests of non salvational point, returning to the purpose of the great commission, the spirit of Pentecost in which is found one mind and one accord, the continued introduction of "yard sticks" as you call it, will only be a distraction from the ends to which Jesus has commissioned us.

IAintMovin · #**130** 01-28-2008, 11:24 AM

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If you are speaking of the Tulsa 6 there is NOT a chance that it is about conviction. It is absolutely 100% about control and men having power.

Man I hate I missed seeing you there.......IMHO this is the dumbest statement you could ever make and proof that you do not know the men who headed this meeting up.........really JM, Think man.........Think...........