Trinity: False Doctrine of Blind Leaders.

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I can't understand a thing you have said. Maybe you have misunderstood me.

There is a difference between the Spirit of Christ in Romans 8:8-11, 2 Cor 13:5, Col 1:27, 1 Peter 1:11 and the man, Jesus Christ, who is at the right hand of God in heaven. I would have to disagree with you and say the Spirit I was baptized with when I spoke in tongues was the Spirit of Christ or simply, Christ. In other places that Spirit is called the Spirit of God, the Spirit of the Father, the Holy Spirit.......etc. We have been all made to drink of ONE Spirit.

To some oneness folks, though, it seems as if there is no difference. To them it's all one and the same. They're so afraid of sounding like trinitarians that they deny those distinctions that are revealed in scripture - such as the distinction between God and the man Christ Jesus.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Chan

To some oneness folks, though, it seems as if there is no difference. To them it's all one and the same. They're so afraid of sounding like trinitarians that they deny those distinctions that are revealed in scripture - such as the distinction between God and the man Christ Jesus.

...even if it means changing the simple witness of the common vocabulary words Father and his only begotten Son .

Originally Posted by tbpew

...even if it means changing the simple witness of the common vocabulary words Father and his only begotten Son .

Many Trinitarians miss that witness too.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

To some oneness folks, though, it seems as if there is no difference. To them it's all one and the same. They're so afraid of sounding like trinitarians that they deny those distinctions that are revealed in scripture - such as the distinction between God and the man Christ Jesus.

Years ago, LONG before there was an FCF I recall running into Trinitarians who were not all that into classifying people as a cult for their theological view of the godhead and prefered to refer to us as heterodox than heretics...one guy told me what I believed in was sort of an economic Trinity.

Now as you were pointing out, many OPs would probably be upset at being called that lol.

In fact Modalism was termed a "Trinitarian heresy"....because they still believed in Father, Son and Holy Ghost in unity, but denied the three were distinct persons

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Years ago, LONG before there was an FCF I recall running into Trinitarians who were not all that into classifying people as a cult for their theological view of the godhead and prefered to refer to us as heterodox than heretics...one guy told me what I believed in was sort of an economic Trinity.

Now as you were pointing out, many OPs would probably be upset at being called that lol.

In fact Modalism was termed a "Trinitarian heresy"....because they still believed in Father, Son and Holy Ghost in unity, but denied the three were distinct persons

Yes, there was that whole thing about the economic trinity and the immanent trinity.

What I look at when determining whether a group is a cult or not is mainly what it believes about Jesus. If it denies the divinty of Christ; if it denies the virgin birth, the sinless life, the miracles, the death, the resurrection, or the literal (and yet future) return of Jesus to take His Church home and, later, to reign on Earth for a thousand years, I consider that group a cult.