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02-15-2008, 02:00 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------
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So you claim.
If Paul said the BODY CHANGES from mortal to immortal, then the dead mortal body is not thrown away for a different body at death, that is not a changed body apart from the mortal one. Again, you deny 1 Cor 15's changed body teaching.
This is part of the theme since the resurrection occurs at the White Throne judgment. Dealing with EVERYTHING what occurs at a given reference, such as resurrection at the great white throne, helps explain how you are right or wrong about the time of the white throne judgment being when you say it is.
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"Again, you deny 1 Cor 15's changed body teaching."
Wrong again! Consistence thou art a jewel.
I don't deny it! I deny it was in 70AD.
You also do not understand this scripture.....
(1Co 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
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02-15-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------
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"Again, you deny 1 Cor 15's changed body teaching."
Wrong again! Consistence thou art a jewel.
I don't deny it! I deny it was in 70AD.
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You indeed DO deny it, because you do not believe the bodies of the living and dead saints arose and were changed in that resurrection and made immortal. You believe the body was LEFT in the grave.
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You also do not understand this scripture.....
(1Co 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
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That scripture is the reason WHY THE CHANGE MUST OCCUR.
1 Corinthians 15:50-53 KJV (50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
CORRUPTIBLE FLESH AND BLOOD cannot inherit Kingdom----> CHANGED by the corruptible putting on incorruption ----> IMMORTAL AND INCORRUPTIBLE BODY'S INHERITANCE OF KINGDOM
Read the context, bro. What CHANGES in your doctrine? What RESURGES? I am being honest in my questions.
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02-15-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------
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You indeed DO deny it, because you do not believe the bodies of the living and dead saints arose and were changed in that resurrection and made immortal. You believe the body was LEFT in the grave.
That scripture is the reason WHY THE CHANGE MUST OCCUR.
1 Corinthians 15:50-53 KJV (50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
CORRUPTIBLE FLESH AND BLOOD cannot inherit Kingdom----> CHANGED by the corruptible putting on incorruption ----> IMMORTAL AND INCORRUPTIBLE BODY'S INHERITANCE OF KINGDOM
Read the context, bro. What CHANGES in your doctrine? What RESURGES? I am being honest in my questions.
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(1Co 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
What is it about this scripture that you cannot understand?
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02-15-2008, 04:50 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------
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(1Co 15:50) Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
What is it about this scripture that you cannot understand?
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None. I understand all that passage, I believe. I just explained all of that.
Did you not read anything I just said?
Obviously you fail to see the context that BECAUSE flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom, FLESH MUCH CHANGE so it can be no more mortal and corruptible, but raised incorruptible. Read it again. Whew. CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE.
"this corruptible must put on incorruption,"
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02-15-2008, 06:03 PM
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Re: ------The Parousia of Jesus Christ----------
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None. I understand all that passage, I believe. I just explained all of that.
Did you not read anything I just said?
Obviously you fail to see the context that BECAUSE flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom, FLESH MUCH CHANGE so it can be no more mortal and corruptible, but raised incorruptible. Read it again. Whew. CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE.
"this corruptible must put on incorruption,"
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