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Old 03-15-2007, 11:32 AM
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one of the most dangerous attibutes a great leader has is a massive personality.

The danger comes when the leader is no longer the leader. Their presonality often leaves a hole that cannot be filled for any reason by anyone.

Some other man just as capable may be fully able to fill the shoes from a technical perspective but that personality thing becomes the defining thing.

We see this in many walks of life. the Post Regan era republican party has been in search for "Another Reagan" since 1988 but still has not found one.

The Devner Broncos are still looking for the next John Elway and still have not found one.

Brother Urshan was a masterful leader. I think Brother Haney has proven thru a lifetime of leadership in ministry that he is as well.

I dont think the problem is with either Brother Urshan or Brother Haney.

I think if there is any conflict or problem it is with us looking at brother Haney, defining the position he fills by Brother Urshan's PERSONALITY.
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:37 AM
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one of the most dangerous attibutes a great leader has is a massive personality.

The danger comes when the leader is no longer the leader. Their presonality often leaves a hole that cannot be filled for any reason by anyone.

Some other man just as capable may be fully able to fill the shoes from a technical perspective but that personality thing becomes the defining thing.

We see this in many walks of life. the Post Regan era republican party has been in search for "Another Reagan" since 1988 but still has not found one.

The Devner Broncos are still looking for the next John Elway and still have not found one.

Brother Urshan was a masterful leader. I think Brother Haney has proven thru a lifetime of leadership in ministry that he is as well.

I dont think the problem is with either Brother Urshan or Brother Haney.

I think if there is any conflict or problem it is with us looking at brother Haney, defining the position he fills by Brother Urshan's PERSONALITY.
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Old 03-15-2007, 11:50 AM
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one of the most dangerous attibutes a great leader has is a massive personality.

The danger comes when the leader is no longer the leader. Their presonality often leaves a hole that cannot be filled for any reason by anyone.

Some other man just as capable may be fully able to fill the shoes from a technical perspective but that personality thing becomes the defining thing.

We see this in many walks of life. the Post Regan era republican party has been in search for "Another Reagan" since 1988 but still has not found one.

The Devner Broncos are still looking for the next John Elway and still have not found one.

Brother Urshan was a masterful leader. I think Brother Haney has proven thru a lifetime of leadership in ministry that he is as well.

I dont think the problem is with either Brother Urshan or Brother Haney.

I think if there is any conflict or problem it is with us looking at brother Haney, defining the position he fills by Brother Urshan's PERSONALITY.
Great Post!!!
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one of the most dangerous attibutes a great leader has is a massive personality.

The danger comes when the leader is no longer the leader. Their presonality often leaves a hole that cannot be filled for any reason by anyone.

Some other man just as capable may be fully able to fill the shoes from a technical perspective but that personality thing becomes the defining thing.

We see this in many walks of life. the Post Regan era republican party has been in search for "Another Reagan" since 1988 but still has not found one.

The Devner Broncos are still looking for the next John Elway and still have not found one.

Brother Urshan was a masterful leader. I think Brother Haney has proven thru a lifetime of leadership in ministry that he is as well.

I dont think the problem is with either Brother Urshan or Brother Haney.

I think if there is any conflict or problem it is with us looking at brother Haney, defining the position he fills by Brother Urshan's PERSONALITY.
Great Ferd! You are one of the best!
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Old 03-15-2007, 08:17 PM
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one of the most dangerous attibutes a great leader has is a massive personality.

The danger comes when the leader is no longer the leader. Their presonality often leaves a hole that cannot be filled for any reason by anyone.

Some other man just as capable may be fully able to fill the shoes from a technical perspective but that personality thing becomes the defining thing.

We see this in many walks of life. the Post Regan era republican party has been in search for "Another Reagan" since 1988 but still has not found one.

The Devner Broncos are still looking for the next John Elway and still have not found one.

Brother Urshan was a masterful leader. I think Brother Haney has proven thru a lifetime of leadership in ministry that he is as well.
I dont think the problem is with either Brother Urshan or Brother Haney.

I think if there is any conflict or problem it is with us looking at brother Haney, defining the position he fills by Brother Urshan's PERSONALITY.

Ferd, GREAT post! I totally agree with what is bolded in red. Unless you have worked with Kenneth Haney, you have no idea of the kind of leader the man is. And the man DOES have charisma - just not the same type as Brother Urshan.

Like someone else stated.... we will could never really compare the effect that Brother Haney could have had on this organization with the effect that Brother Urshan had because he will not be in office as long as Brother Urshan was. And that could be a good thing.... I for one (and I think many others) personally think that Brother Urshan stayed in office too long. That is not to take anything away from Brother Urshan - I highly respect the man - but new blood was needed long before Brother Haney was elected. JMHO.
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