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Old 03-18-2007, 08:30 AM
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Not so my friend. Evidently many feel the way I do.....look at the closeness of the vote.
Brother the vote to defer to committee was close....the vote for television will be much different
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Brother the vote to defer to committee was close....the vote for television will be much different
I don't know why you believe that. It was very close at Salt Lake City...regardless of all the busing in votes for your side. Tampa is a long way from California.
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I don't know why you believe that. It was very close at Salt Lake City...regardless of all the busing in votes for your side. Tampa is a long way from California.
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Brother the vote to defer to committee was close....the vote for television will be much different
You know what is amazing to me? You don't hear folks from our side of the issue threatening to leave the UPCI, but you do from your side. It is kind of like if it don't go my way, I will take my ball and go home. I say go!
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You know what is amazing to me? You don't hear folks from our side of the issue threatening to leave the UPCI, but you do from your side. It is kind of like if it don't go my way, I will take my ball and go home. I say go!

Dan....there are a few idiots on the conservative side who think they have sway enough to use the threat....


But I kinda feel the same way about those of you who want to change the org....leave
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Dan....there are a few idiots on the conservative side who think they have sway enough to use the threat....


But I kinda feel the same way about those of you who want to change the org....leave

Brother, I ain't leaving! You can't change anything if you bail out. I am here to stay. (Unlike some of those who are crybabies) Believe me.....some things need to be changed!
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You know what is amazing to me? You don't hear folks from our side of the issue threatening to leave the UPCI, but you do from your side. It is kind of like if it don't go my way, I will take my ball and go home. I say go!
What about those who left in 92 over the AS????????????????????
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What about those who left in 92 over the AS????????????????????
I don't agree with them either. This organization has changed many things over the years. Some for the better, some perhaps for worse. But the answer is not leaving. You cannot change anytihing from the outside looking in.
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I don't agree with them either. This organization has changed many things over the years. Some for the better, some perhaps for worse. But the answer is not leaving. You cannot change anytihing from the outside looking in.

How could someone in good conscious sign something they don't believe? Isn't that lying? In 1992 another minister told my pastor to sign it and repent of it later. My pastor chose not to sign.
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How could someone in good conscious sign something they don't believe? Isn't that lying? In 1992 another minister told my pastor to sign it and repent of it later. My pastor chose not to sign.
Aside from the TV issue, do you believe that all ministers that sign the AS preach and believe everything in the articles of faith? Do some go to Six Flags? Branson? Etc. That is a worldly amusement isn't it? Just wondering.

The manual says "all worldly sports and amusements"
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