Salvation for the deaf and mute?: Say it ain't so.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by jaxfam6

What is the saying about it is "best to be silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"? that is what came to my mind when I saw that post.
I was shocked to such a thing. I would equally be shocked to see it the other way around also.

I would be careful of even an insinuation of another being a fool. It is written, "the fool has said, in his heart there is no God." The Word of God defines an atheist as a fool and no one else. Brother, I am not an atheist. I am a fellow believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I have been baptized in his name and fill with His glorious Spirit. It is also an Ad hominem fallacy to critcize the person of an argument and not directly talk about the argument itself.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

I would be careful of even an insinuation of another being a fool. It is written, "the fool has said, in his heart there is no God." The Word of God defines an atheist as a fool and no one else. Brother, I am not an atheist. I am a fellow believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. I have been baptized in his name and fill with His glorious Spirit. It is also an Ad hominem fallacy to critcize the person of an argument and not directly talk about the argument itself.

Just to clarify, this is not a true statement. The Bible uses the word 'fool' 69 times in several different ways, most of them in the book of Proverbs. For instance:

Pr 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.


Carry on.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Just to clarify, this is not a true statement. The Bible uses the word 'fool' 69 times in several different ways, most of them in the book of Proverbs. For instance:

Pr 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.


Carry on.

Obviously the word fool is used in various different ways. The scripture you cited does not change the meaning of the verse I cited. Jesus warned of talking about foolishness of a person. Why? Because by so doing the person who called the other a fool was placing judgement upon the other. What cause judgement to come upon a person. UNBELIEF -- As Jesus said he that believes not is condemned already.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by bkstokes

Obviously the word fool is used in various different ways. The scripture you cited does not change the meaning of the verse I cited. Jesus warned of talking about foolishness of a person. Why? Because by so doing the person who called the other a fool was placing judgement upon the other. What cause judgement to come upon a person. UNBELIEF -- As Jesus said he that believes not is condemned already.

You said that a fool was defined as an atheist only. I was simply saying that what you said wasn't correct. There are all kinds of fools, even among believers. Remember the ten virgins? All were believers, but 5 were foolish.

[bkstokes]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

You said that a fool was defined as an atheist only. I was simply saying that what you said wasn't correct. There are all kinds of fools, even among believers. Remember the ten virgins? All were believers, but 5 were foolish.

They were foolish because they were unprepared. They were unprepared because they had UNBELIEF. Fool and Foolishness always have there root in unbelief. A person makes a mistake because he or she believed the wrong belief. The virgins were not fools but they acted like fools because they were not prepared (unbelief). He that believes is not condemned but he that believes not is condemned already. The unbeliever (the person who denies the work of Jesus) is acting foolish and if he she continues to act that way will be a fool because he or she has denied the only true and wise God.

Our English word has become loosely associated with silly actions. Actions that are not accepted by the norm. Nevertheless, this is why we may see some inconsistantcies with the English translation, but fool always has its root in unbelief.