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Old 05-24-2008, 07:45 AM
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I believe it was a study performed by Bro. Ensey in a Pentecostal Herald, but the study revealed that nearly 2 out of every 5 licensed ministers have struggles or have struggled with pornography. It's far more prevalent than you might imagine. The more I work with men in church the more I discover that this temptation is something like a leprosy among us. You have to understand, these are good men who love their wives and families. They are struggling with their flesh. You might also find it surprising but it's not just men struggling either. More and more women are admitting to having had struggles in this area too. These are good people, all love the Lord and their spouses...they are struggling with their flesh. They already feel more condemned than you might ever know. What they need is someone to love them unconditionally and who will seek to understand and pray with them, allowing them to pour their hearts out and get the pain out of their souls over this sin.

I know of a few couples who have had to deal with this. In one of them there was a big falling out, words said, yelling, screaming, and even a physical shoving match. The husband left the house and she told all his friends and her friends about his sin. It destroyed his ministry and they're divorced today. In another couple the wife discovered her husband's struggle in this area and one day approached him at the table asking if they could talk. She opened by expressing how much she loved and respected him for being a good husband and a wonderful father. She then calmly explained that she discovered something on the computer. He was defensive at first but she assured him that she still loved him and told him that he didn't need to feel like he had to hide this from her because she loved him. He was so overwhelmed by her love and understanding he began to cry and she took him by the hand as he began to explain how difficult it is and how it's like he just can't control it and how he felt so ashamed and filthy afterwards. As he sobbed and explained to her how he was hurting inside...she held him. They prayed together and scheduled a private counseling session with a certified Christian counselor. He voluntarily stepped down from preaching for just over six months. They worked through the problem and today the man is faithfully ministering in the church. It was a private issue their family resolved and moved beyond and they are stronger and more open with each other for it.

I even know couples who have survived affairs.

This is something the enemy loves to see destroy a marriage. Don't let some picture of an airbrushed hussy ruin your marriage. Understand that good men have weaknesses and sometimes those weaknesses get the best of them. King David was a good man who also fell tragically into sexual sin. Yet he is still regarded as a man after God's own heart. And for generations after David's death God still moved on behalf of his servant David's sake. Husbands are often like King David. Powerful, passionate, and strong in conviction. But all it takes is one weak moment and like David he can fall. From a man's perspective (you might not agree with this sis and I could be wrong) but from a male perspective sometimes I think women have a very high standard for their husbands...so high...God forbid if he's human and struggles with a sin or weakness. So we men feel we have to hide it. We make a mistake or struggle and hate ourselves for it. And we are terrified. We don't want to loose your love. We don't want it to be discovered that we failed to live up to that high expectation put upon us. Sometimes it's worse...I heard a woman once say that she'd divorce her husband the day she found out he was looking at porn. Guess what...I looked at my wife after hearing that and said, "That's one man who's hiding a lot from his wife and she doesn't have a clue." I was right. Thank God it humbled them and didn't ruin them.

Don't let porn ruin a marriage. It can be overcome with grace and prayer.

If you're ever confronted with a situation like this try to remember this one suggestion...error on the side of mercy. If a wife or husband overreacts about these kinds of things things can be said and things can be done that will cause years of hurt and that cannot be taken back. Error on the side of mercy. It might save a marriage.
Your post is great! I use the statement that Jesus forgives so we have to forgive. Not just with this issue but with any issue.

I definitely agree that it is more of a problem than one might think. It seems to be such a secret problem. People will ask for help with alchohol and drug problems but it seems they are too embarrassed to ask for help with porn. Our Sunday School teacher has suggested that our men read "Every Man's Battle." He told the Sunday School class that if a man tells you that he doesn't battle lust, he is a liar.

It does surprise me that women can struggle with these issues. I'm assuming you mean porn. I can see women struggling with emotional issues but not porn.

If I were personally in this situation, I would hope that God would give me the strength the second women you described. Plus, I really need to be that person for my dearest friend. It's somewhat hard when you are close to a situation though. I just believe that Jesus forgives so we have to also.
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It does surprise me that women can struggle with these issues. I'm assuming you mean porn. I can see women struggling with emotional issues but not porn.
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Wow- the one about the teenage girl breaks my heart.
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A SOCIOLOGY researcher at Brigham Young University has found that today's college students are much more accepting of pornography than their parents.

John Carroll and his colleagues surveyed 813 students online. The results of the study show that almost all young men and nearly half of young women believe that viewing porn is an acceptable way of expressing sexuality. Only 37 per cent of fathers and 20 per cent of mothers that were surveyed agreed with the younger generation's prevailing attitudes.

Not too surprisingly, the study suggests young people might have been influenced by the easy availability of X-rated pornography on the Internet, even via wireless technology on handheld mobile phones.

"We're in an age of pocket porn," Carroll told USA Today.

Young men are still vastly more inclined to view porn than young women. The research found that 86 per cent of young men reported viewing porn in the last year but that only 31 per cent of young women reported having ever seen porn. Further, 20 per cent of the men said they looked at porn daily or almost daily, but only 3.4 per cent of the women said they viewed porn daily or weekly.

The article doesn't mention whether the Brigham Young study also surveyed generational differences in parents' openness in talking about sex with their kids, relatively broader factual sex education and heightened fears regarding sexually transmitted diseases in recent decades, or shifts in cultural attitudes about sexuality over the same timeframe.

So maybe its willingness to ascribe greater acceptance of pornography by young adults to the baneful influence of the Internet should be regarded with some salt handy. Brigham Young is a conservative Mormon university. And USA Today ain't Rolling Stone.

The study will be published in January by the Journal of Adolescent Research.
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Your post is great! I use the statement that Jesus forgives so we have to forgive. Not just with this issue but with any issue.

I definitely agree that it is more of a problem than one might think. It seems to be such a secret problem. People will ask for help with alchohol and drug problems but it seems they are too embarrassed to ask for help with porn. Our Sunday School teacher has suggested that our men read "Every Man's Battle." He told the Sunday School class that if a man tells you that he doesn't battle lust, he is a liar.

It does surprise me that women can struggle with these issues. I'm assuming you mean porn. I can see women struggling with emotional issues but not porn.

If I were personally in this situation, I would hope that God would give me the strength the second women you described. Plus, I really need to be that person for my dearest friend. It's somewhat hard when you are close to a situation though. I just believe that Jesus forgives so we have to also.
April had to cool down quiet a bit before talking to her husband. She got so mad she cried and was ready to kill him. But she knew if she talked to him when he got home and unleashed her wrath she's say things that she might regret. So she waited a day or two (I think it was a day or two). But she waited until she could calm down and be calculated and deliberate in her approach.
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