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06-25-2008, 01:48 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
Not certain I understand where you are going here...Not all gays get AIDS and not all the people with AIDS are gay. The only men that JA and his bf are attracted to are each other. Otherwise they would mostlikely be with women. Neither have AIDS. The point of my post you quoted is that it is better to go through the hurt of not seeing and communicating with one another than it would be for either of them to get AIDS and lose the partner that way.
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This is probably one of those trying to communicate over the internet type of things. The reason I asked is because of the second part of your statement. If they are only attracted to each other, and neither of them is HIV+ then it stands to reason they wouldn't have to worry about getting AIDS.
This definitely sounds like a unique situation to be dealing with. Here you have two men who, other than each other, are not attracted to other males. They both want to do what's right in the sight of God and are wrestling with how to do that and still stay friends. It's a tough one, to say the least. It's easy to tell them to stay away from each other, but you already know that option could be setting them up to fail big time if they find they just can't be apart from each other. I would say they should at least try going for a time with no sexual contact, to see how that works first. Then, if that doesn't work, they could try being completely away from each other. If that doesn't work, I don't know what else to suggest.
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06-25-2008, 03:28 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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This is probably one of those trying to communicate over the internet type of things. The reason I asked is because of the second part of your statement. If they are only attracted to each other, and neither of them is HIV+ then it stands to reason they wouldn't have to worry about getting AIDS.
This definitely sounds like a unique situation to be dealing with. Here you have two men who, other than each other, are not attracted to other males. They both want to do what's right in the sight of God and are wrestling with how to do that and still stay friends. It's a tough one, to say the least. It's easy to tell them to stay away from each other, but you already know that option could be setting them up to fail big time if they find they just can't be apart from each other. I would say they should at least try going for a time with no sexual contact, to see how that works first. Then, if that doesn't work, they could try being completely away from each other. If that doesn't work, I don't know what else to suggest.
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I understand where you are going now. I have read studies over this type of issue that at times humans can care HIV and not acutally have it. Though rare it happens.
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06-25-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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I understand where you are going now. I have read studies over this type of issue that at times humans can care HIV and not acutally have it. Though rare it happens.
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There are carriers. I know someone in Indianapolis who I believe is a carrier. He's HIV+, has been for almost 15 years now, and has not shown even the first symptom of heading towards bad health.
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06-25-2008, 03:37 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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There are carriers. I know someone in Indianapolis who I believe is a carrier. He's HIV+, has been for almost 15 years now, and has not shown even the first symptom of heading towards bad health.
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06-25-2008, 03:40 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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I am sure the enormous amount of money MJ has thrown at being HIV+ has played a significant role is his staying healthy. My friend is broke as can be and doesn't take any meds whatsoever.
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06-25-2008, 05:59 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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I am sure the enormous amount of money MJ has thrown at being HIV+ has played a significant role is his staying healthy. My friend is broke as can be and doesn't take any meds whatsoever.
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Agreed. Though he could actually be a carrier, you never know.
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06-25-2008, 06:06 PM
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Re: Gays, family ties and opening up....
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Agreed. Though he could actually be a carrier, you never know.
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True. As far as I know, there isn't really any sort of test one can take to know if they are a carrier who will never develop symptoms. My guess is eventually science will develop some sort of vaccine for HIV.
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