Gays, family ties and opening up.... - Page 7

Pressing-On · #61 06-25-2008, 02:36 PM

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Neither my wife nor myself are overprotective that way, thank you Jesus. I am very protective in some ways, like not letting the little ones go outside by themselves, but I try to tailor my protecting to what would be appropriate for their age. My son is 16 and he already knows how to handle it if some freaky old man tries to get funny with him. In fact, I have had "that" talk with all of them already. The school is pretty good about reinforcing that sort of teaching too.

Well, aren't you special!

I can't change!!!!

Rico · #62 06-25-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Well, aren't you special!

I can't change!!!!

With God all things are possible. NOW GO PRAY!!!

Pressing-On · #63 06-25-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

With God all things are possible. NOW GO PRAY!!!

Good idea, I've spent way to much time today.

Have a good one!!!

Rico · #64 06-25-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Good idea, I've spent way to much time today.

Have a good one!!!

U logging out for today? You know who you remind me of? Those preachers who say they are closing with such and thus. Forty-five minutes later they are still closing..................

Pressing-On · #65 06-25-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

U logging out for today? You know who you remind me of? Those preachers who say they are closing with such and thus. Forty-five minutes later they are still closing..................

And I don't get paid for it, either!!!!!!!!!!

Nahum · #66 06-25-2008, 02:56 PM

This has been a great thread.

Nahum · #67 06-25-2008, 03:07 PM

I don't think a person can help how they feel.

They can only deal with those feelings.

And sexuality is an intregal part of our very core.

This makes this inclination very, very hard to overcome. It's even worse than an extremely obese person who is trying to overcome excessive eating. The obese person struggles because the very thing that enslaves him is a necessary drug. He must have food to live.

And so he must discipline himself. Focus. Place his body under subjection. Crucify the flesh with its carnal desires.

It's even worse for the homosexual. He must deny himself something that seems natural. Something that most of us feel is an integral part of our lives. He must immerse himself in the word, prayer and fasting. Submit himself to the leading of the Holy Ghost. Even then he may never be attracted to the opposite sex. He can, however, live a life that is overcoming. Pure. Holy. In line with God's Word.

I once had a mentor tell me that he did not believe anyone could be delivered from homosexual acts once they had given in - even once.

I firmly disagreed with him.

Either God is a deliverer, or He isn't. I seriously doubt homosexual attraction is something too strong for God to deliver a person from.

I believe compassion is order here, and I appreciate the advice given to our friend, JT, in this thread.

To recap, either God is a deliverer, or he isn't. I don't think we can limit His ability to save us from anything we fall into.

rgcraig · #68 06-25-2008, 03:27 PM

PP - good post and you are exactly right!

Either God can do all things are he can't! I believe he can do ALL things!

Jack Shephard · #69 06-25-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

This is probably one of those trying to communicate over the internet type of things. The reason I asked is because of the second part of your statement. If they are only attracted to each other, and neither of them is HIV+ then it stands to reason they wouldn't have to worry about getting AIDS.

This definitely sounds like a unique situation to be dealing with. Here you have two men who, other than each other, are not attracted to other males. They both want to do what's right in the sight of God and are wrestling with how to do that and still stay friends. It's a tough one, to say the least. It's easy to tell them to stay away from each other, but you already know that option could be setting them up to fail big time if they find they just can't be apart from each other. I would say they should at least try going for a time with no sexual contact, to see how that works first. Then, if that doesn't work, they could try being completely away from each other. If that doesn't work, I don't know what else to suggest.

I understand where you are going now. I have read studies over this type of issue that at times humans can care HIV and not acutally have it. Though rare it happens.

Rico · #70 06-25-2008, 03:33 PM

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I understand where you are going now. I have read studies over this type of issue that at times humans can care HIV and not acutally have it. Though rare it happens.

There are carriers. I know someone in Indianapolis who I believe is a carrier. He's HIV+, has been for almost 15 years now, and has not shown even the first symptom of heading towards bad health.